Do you understand math, 2% per hit for 5 attacks isn’t 10% chance.
It is, and this is a big issue. I dont abuse it because i believe its exploiting an ingame bug.
When you frame this as a Paladin HoJ trinket Exploit, you are being disingenuous by making it into a class issue rather than a trinket and spell batching problem.
Do you understand math, 2% per hit for 5 attacks isn’t 10% chance.
10% chance of getting a proc within that timeframe because those 5 attacks are lined up against each other. its a 10% total chance to get a proc or not…
When you frame this as a Paladin HoJ trinket Exploit
Not my thread - im simply posting in this one aswell. Im simply explaining in the ‘paladin hoj exploit’ thread about experiances i have had with paladins…
Rain man please go take your math to a casino, you will win big I’m sure.
It’s clear there is no helping you.
You clearly are a leet pvp and your friends are awesome, it’s why you run around 5v1 people.
The only reason your pro group of players lost was because an aimbot leet haxor.
it’s why you run around 5v1 people
No we were five players looking for rich thorium veins when we got smashed by one solo paladin. I realised who it was when i seen the vid posted today in another thread and realised now how he was able to do so
The video in this thread, also not started by me.
It appears that there are TWO bugs at play here.
- The Hand of justice / extra swing proc bug where you can use a macro /startattack /stopattack to get even more extra swings beyond just the 1 that it is supposed to grant. These extra swings can then continue to proc on-hit affects and can even proc off themselves to grant an infinite loop of extra swings.
- A reckoning stacking bug where you can quickly sit then stand as you are being attacked in order to be critically striked AND get a reckoning stack - which, according to a blue post, sit/crit is NOT supposed to proc things like reckoning
Actually you still don’t.
But keep your head up champ, you believe that 2% per hit proc rate was the reason.
But keep your head up champ, you believe that 2% per hit proc rate was the reason.
Watch the vid. you might learn something. Or maybe you already know and are defending this because its the only way a paladin could kill 5 players.
Ok dude.
Keep the mongo train up, didn’t work last time I’m sure it will work next time.
Maybe we can see mantisboi post the vid, I’m sure we will see plenty of white flashes under his feet every time he mops a member of your group up.
Ok dude.
He even states in the vid that its broken. If even he can admit that, why cant you?
Maybe we can see mantisboi post the vid, I’m sure we will see plenty of white flashes under his feet every time he mops a member of your group up
I hope to star in his next vid. I really do. There will be no tears though. Its posted to youtube in a name one would assume is his.
I ask you a simple question, being a paladin. Do you think this is a legitimate use of ingame mechanics and fair? or do you think its broken and/or abusing an in game bug, therefore causing it to become an exploit?
Lets say it becomes considered fine and ther new meta - every single warrior and shaman will also be doing this. Do you think thats a healthy balance for the game?
If the same mechanic was possible in vanilla then it is WORKING AS INTENDED.
#NOCHANGES isn’t just a saying, it means NO CHANGES!
If it was in vanilla then it’s ok, if it wasn’t then it’s not.
My question back is, do you think the reason your team lost was because of a 2% proc rate trinket.
No we were five players looking for rich thorium veins when we got smashed by one solo paladin.
You might see this as some reasoning to nerf paladins, I see it as QQ and a massive failure of epic proportions. And a hilarious read for my pally friend.
This is just a great read at work, keep it going please. Grabs popcorn
If it was in vanilla then it’s ok, if it wasn’t then it’s not.
I dont ever recall hearing about /stop/start macros to get an extra free attack from a hoj. I dont ever recalling 1 paladin killing 5 horde, at the speed a mc geared pally did, even when they had naxx gear.
My question back is, do you think the reason your team lost was because of a 2% proc rate trinket.
Not directly. But the extra attacks added to it.
You might see this as some reasoning to nerf paladins
I dont in any way want paladins nerfed. I want confirmation that playing them or any class as so is abusing in game mechanic therefore exploiting.
Id like confirmation that /sit not activating crit reactive procs is intended behaviour and that using any other form or work around for any reason to get a fake crit is abusing an in game mechanic therefore exploiting.
I want these things looked at because it affects the balance of the game.
Like i said - the paladin making the movie can admit its broken - why cant you guys?
Id like confirmation that /sit not activating crit reactive procs is intended behaviour and that using any other form or work around for any reason to get a fake crit is abusing an in game mechanic therefore exploiting.
Going off videos made in Vanilla 1.12 as a guide it should be fine. The primary thing is that you have to spend time setting it up with someone in a duel or having a random mob hit you over and over again.
Both of which won’t be in Battlegrounds.
Both of which won’t exist in most PvP interactions due to the setup time.
Going off videos made in Vanilla 1.12 as a guide it should be fine. The primary thing is that you have to spend time setting it up with someone in a duel or having a random mob hit you over and over again
You can do it in combat on your second target after you blew the first one up - rek still is viable with only 2 attacks - 3 attacks if you exploit ther macro - every single time youy take a melee damage you auto attack 3 times instantly.
All 3 of those have a chance to proc extra things.
Dont act like it isnt broken.
Now I can agree with this, much better when you are calm.
I was never not calm.
Intresting to see the conversation go from ‘ahhastompedbyapaladin1v5yousucklmaoahaha’ though.
This is one case of a much larger picture that is already afftecting the game in ways never dreamed of in Vanilla.