I just won’t use addons then.
Not a big deal.
I’ll survive.
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That’s being changed in version 2.0 currently in Alpha testing. It’s available on the WowUp Discord if you want to try it. I’m using it and it works great.
Then why do it? I will never understand wasting time and doing something you don’t enjoy when better options exist.
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Don’t worry about it! The only way they can legit stop Python scrapers is by either requiring a paid account to download at all (which would kill their business) or by inserting captchas on every download (which would also kill their business). Anything else can’t stop an application from pretending it’s a browser and downloading.
They can lock down their API all they want - that’d only create an inconvenience at worst. Hell, if they went the captcha route it’d actually be worse for users on their app than for anyone on an external app which can just machinegun the captchas on your face.
Cash sharer hosts can’t stop the downloaders, and that’s their business, it’s not overwolf who’ll manage to do it.
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it does, blizz isnt going to go through all this for a net loss
better for gamers, not for the company. its easier, cheaper, and better for blizz to just be as hands off as they always have when theres no compelling reason to do otherwise.
blizz is a company that at least gives a cursory effort for PR, overwolf seems to not give a !@#$ at all. we know this after the ads in hearthstone and hots appeared and even with all malware rumors they have enough astroturf and delusional fanbois that they can just ride it out.
Only the elite such as us can conquer this feat of strength.
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Then allow me to explain myself. Because it’s not a “You either 100% enjoy it or 100% loathe it” Answer here, but it’s a simple answer. Or a short one considering my average comment length.
I do the manual installing, because i don’t want to put my trust in the mod managers, after the couple times it messed up on me by giving me the wrong version on Skada and such. I can understand to some it’s silly to you, and that’s fine, but their are times when small annoyances like that can make us rethink another option here. Maybe i installed the wrong manager here, or maybe the website itself has done something wrong.
But i just don’t mind manually installing addons. I been doing it for years and i hardly see a reason to change myself despite better options existing. Do i enjoy it because i don’t mind it? No. Do i hate doing it because i said i didn’t enjoy it? No, i just said i don’t mind it. If i don’t mind it, that means i’m neither hating or enjoying it. I recognize it’s a task i got to do in order to get to the thing i need.
It’s like getting allied races or those Flame-Glaives from Havoc’s DH. The process is not too fun, but i push on because i want the reward, despite how much i’m not fond of the grind or challenge. Or doing a job to get money so i can go to disneyland or something. You get the idea i’m trying to get across here.
I understand fully why mod managers and why they are popular. They are convenient. I even use them myself, as i said. Time and time and time again. I don’t use them as much for WoW for reasons i have stated above. I simply choose a different avenue on how to download my mods. That is simply it.
Taxed Largely; Didn’t Rent, I simply just do it to get to the thing i enjoy.
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I think you mean “it doesn’t” here.
5th or so time you bought this up by the way, and yet to elaborate on this for even a fake example here. I mean do you just want me to guess what the net loss will be?
Are you saying any net loss is bad for them? 
Why exactly are you arguing for the company exactly? Especially one like Blizzard?
That’s better then paying no attention to the PR at all. Cursory effort is enough for people on the outside to look at that and think what Blizzard is doing is a good thing here. And to some on the inside, might think the same thing. The outside view is more important because it will potentially lend itself to more customers joining in.
…Delusional fanboys? What do you mean here? That people who don’t want to support overwolf because of those things they are currently doing/ or done in the past are delusional fanboys to you? i don’t understand. 
It is nothing like this. You can automate getting addons updated and you can’t automate getting the Glaives.
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For me, personally, I have:
- Altholic (keeps track of all characters)
- Details (damage meter)
- OPie (round nested hotbars that pop up via keybind)
- TomTom (coordinates/waypoints)
- HandyNotes (plus slightly more than half a dozen modules that need to be updated on their own)
- World Quest List (title says it all)
- Leatrix Plus (a host of minor QoL edits, like faster auto loot, no talking heads, automate quests/dialog
- Pawn (finds upgrades using customizable stat weights)
- All The Things (every collectible in the game sorted to help you find stuff near you that you don’t have yet)
- Move Anything (makes any part of the UI able to be manipulated and moved to another part of the screen)
- Rematch (pet battle addon, make multiple teams instead of just one, write notes and guides for WQs, overhauls the pet screen)
- Battle Pet ID (battle pets have “unique” stat ratios per battle pet in the same species, this shows which breed they are)
- WIM (wow instant messenger, it puts whispers in a pop up box, separate from the chat pane entirely, and adds sounds to it)
- Storyline (makes questing more immersive)
- Paste (allows pasting far more than the normal limit; you can paste more then 50 /way commands for TomTom at once instead of doing them like 7 at a time)
That doesn’t include things like Bagnon, Bartender, other UI adjusters. Nor does it include things like guild utilities, various little things that affect profession panes, so on and so forth.
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and you have yet to tell me how spending all this money is a net gain for them
because you are acting like blizz is a charity that should be spending the money they make on something like this when they dont need to
and spending money on an official mod manager and repository isnt going to result in a profit for them even from a pr standpoint
i was referring to the delusional fanboys of overwolf that think theyre great/dont have malware
I just did: Positive PR for Blizzard and many of the people will think they are doing something good and therefore it will lead into more money for them.
Why would Blizzard not want Positive PR here, especially if the community dislikes Overwolf and it’s scummy practices? I mean your arguing for the company, but your saying that positive PR that translate to possibly more customers is not enough for Blizzard?
Also, like i said again: What is the numbers for this net loss here? like can you give me an idea of it at least? Say i’m starting up an Addon site for WoW and my own mod manager. How money do i need to spend at the start and how much money a month do i need to keep it going? Why exactly you keep on not answering this question that i have asked multiple times by this point? 
I’m not. I do realize that Blizzard is a company here, and i recognize that positive PR will land them more money, as well better stocks even.
If i were personally the CEO of Blizzard myself, i wouldn’t see this as net loss since i’l be making 7 billion dollars a year anyways. At worst it will be at least 0.0001%* loss. While that’s still a lot of money, $700k* a year is minicule to 7 Billion dollars a year. ($6,999,300,000)
* = i’m using this number here until you tell me the net loss here. When you do, i’l change accordingly in the future comment.
What are you exactly saying, the manager and addon site itself needs to make money? The overall profit margin isn’t good enough to cover it’s expenses?
Ahh. Fair enough.
Yeah, I’ll just update everything manually as I have always done
ill repeat myself again: whats easier and cheaper for blizzard: buying hardware, bandwith, IT to monitor the aforementioned, people to design the site and manager client, QA to test the addons, and the extra GMs to deal with tickets regarding the aforementioned for some positive PR or simply dont bother with all that, save themselves the time money and trouble, and continue as they always have? the cost doesnt benefit what little PR this could bring
a net loss is a net loss is a net loss: shareholders arent going to care if its .01 .001 .0001 .00001 .000001% of blizz profits, theyre going to ask why its needed in the first place when we went 16 years without exposing ourselves to the risks and cost
that is exactly what im saying, assuming theres a net gain in the first place which there wont be. does the blizz manager in of itself strictly need to make money? no people would pitch a fit if there was adds in the official manager but the benefits of this simply dont outweigh the risk/cost in this instance.
Well the Curseforge Overwolf app open alpha has started
It’s not too bad.
You can turn off it starting at boot time and it actually respects that setting (nothing in the startup list or in the registery). You can also get it to quit when you quit it and it doesn’t appear to leave any overwolf processes running. Overlays are turned off by default.
I made a thread in the UI & Macros forums on it -
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/overwolf-curseforge-app-open-alpha/690370/2
PS Yeah I tried it in both a sandbox and on my main install. Looks fine to me. your mileage may vary.
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I have always just manually installed addons. Then again I don’t use more than 3 addons.
I use WowUp.
So many people here saying “just install manually”. What youre really saying is “i dont care that this company is trying to steal”.
That depends upon two things. If Overwolf locks down their repo server from being used by third party updaters, then those updaters will need to build their own repo to continue working. If they don’t, you will have no options other than manually updating or using their updater.
So many people here saying “just install manually”. What youre really saying is “i dont care that this company is trying to steal”.
Stop putting words in people’s mouths. They said what they said, which is install manually, which means just that and not your absurd intentional misinterpretation that only impedes communication, instead of facilitating it. That is incredibly rude and disingenuous to redefine and create alternate meanings to what was literally said. It does not make people feel like you are open to discussion, in any capacity. It makes it harder to take you seriously, as well.
They said install manually, as an alternative to using Overwolf. “install manually” is more willing to inconvenience themselves, than those who demand to have their addon and manager cake, too. Who cares more? The people whining they won’t have the luxuries they’ve become accustomed to or the people willing to deal with more hassle to avoid Overwolf?
Manual install is a moot point anyways, unless the addon devs host their addon somewhere else, there won’t be anywhere to manually (or alternative addon manager) install that addon from.
What actually matters is whether or not the addon devs support Overwolf or will go to the alternative platform(s).
You know what I haven’t heard from most of the “I must have my addons and easy updates” and never manually update ilk? Are you going to play without addons? Quit WoW? Or are you the ones who will actually be supporting Overwolf, while trying to twist the words of those who will not?
The few who have said they would quit, etc., I respect. The others I question.
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