There are lots of things that could have been done differently. Some of them might have even been better ideas. I don’t know.
But what I do know is that people on Herod are staring down the barrel of multi-hour login queues. Me, I would be doing something about it personally and not just hoping that Blizzard works something out.
Personally I think they should lock a realm as soon as it hits FULL. But the weeping and gnashing of teeth that would follow when late comers can’t join up with friends would be deafening around here.
No one cares about the realm names you cringey child. Grow up.
Stepping back from this thing, Blizzard’s attitude so far about the Classic servers goes right along with what its been doing with the last few expansions. Everything is done on the cheap. With the Classic servers, the Blizzard money crunchers are so afraid that a server won’t be full, that they are trying to jam in as many people as they can in the designated servers. The Blizzard of Vanilla would have (and did) just open up a bunch of servers and let the chips fly. Clearly that is not what we are seeing now. Blizzard is trying to guess what the server populations will be and woe to someone if they let too many servers open. It’s sad, really.
Depending on how much it costs to open a server, it might make perfect economic sense to have tried this layering thing and limit the number of servers to which Blizz are committed. Money crunchers worrying about empty servers is perfectly normal - part of if not entirely their actual job, one might say.
Having said that, they did state that there would be more servers standing by if demand required them. I think the - what, two? - extra servers may not be enough. Current demand requires more.
in the starter areas there was supposed to be to get people out into the world that were newly created, not on the entire world map
Then I would petition to have your server name permanently be Goldshire.
I got this name on Herod. I’m locked in now!
I am very curious to hear the numbers going on here… the known numbers are “over 10k queue” and a while back blizz saying “80% tourists will leave before phase 2”
What is the aimed server size for phase 2? I would assume they allow launch size 5x that to accommodate the 80% expected drop off.
Lets assume it is 4k just to look at some math quick. That’d mean they’d want 20k at launch. They stated we will see over 10k queues meaning they let 30k+ in which is at least 50% past the server cap. How does the server not get locked before it reaches that point?
While handfuls of people have and will continue to transfer off, the numbers rerolling off will not come close the numbers blizzard mentioned if it is as bad as it sounds.
The only real solution would be to make 2 “herod transfer only” servers so people could keep their names and announce herod is being deleted 2 days before launch and the transfer only state will be unlocked as well 2 days before launch.
It sounds like the server has enough to almost fill 2 servers anyway and more will surely fill in after they become open to non transfers.
So does that mean 3K from vanilla and then an additional 10K? And what does it matter? That is why they did layering. The queue should be quick regardless of number of players unless they totally forgot to do anything with the login servers, but it should still be about actually logging in and the duration of the queue, not waiting for others to log off as well.
Also, are they talking normal peak raid time queues or total population? The number i always see is vanilla supported 3K players. So that means more than 3K made characters just that the peak could handle 3K and then there were queues. So assume 5K? I dunno spitballin.
Good news to hear all around, so low estimate is 13K players which is about what Nost had at peak. And that is just for the one server. Multiply that by 15 plus all the people that will come in at launch (polls showed half of players intending to play Classic weren’t subbed) and that is a good 400Kish.
So if the 80% estimate of looky loos is correct that leaves an average of about 5K players per realm. (13K players15 servers 2 times the players at launch)*0.2 or 20% actually stay = 78,000 total players staying / 15 servers = 5,200 invested players/realm
So maybe they know what they are doing, except for terrible server names.
The problem is how do they really know that there will be a steep drop off? Seriously, what makes them think this will happen? Apparently, they are counting on people looking and leaving. Not a very rosy prognosis. It sounds like J Brake what’s his name really wants to prove he was right. I find the whole Blizzard attitude toward Classic rather depressing.
I agree. This jives with what they are number crunching, in my estimation. But with vanilla launch they hoped for 500K and were at 3 times that a few months in.
I think that everyone is severely underestimating the social aspect of the game. Social media took the world by storm. Streamers show that, people will just sit and watch someone play a game and chill. That is vanilla, an early social media prototype.
It is prime for social media. There will be all kinds of new things happening. For instance watching a live stream of your guild raiding a first kill from your hotel room on a business trip or holiday.
It could easily turn the insular narcissism of social media into a group you participate in rather than watch like streaming. That is powerful, everyone wants to belong.
a Medium realm today already has more characters on it than even the most crowded realms did back in 2006.
Since most realms are Medium+ right now, and since you’re not opening new realms, either:
I would guess #2. Given that there are likely many people not yet subscribed, I’d say 2-3 more realms will be opened on Friday the 23rd. This would also give the newly-subscribed a weekend to organize and decide on a realm.
I’m referring mostly to PVE and PVP realms. Of the 2-3 new ones, probably 1 will be PVE and 1-2 will be PVP.
Not much else to do these days except to theorycraft in anticipation…
For anyone wondering about Herods faction balance, there is a poll for that
https://strawpoll.com/h2rf3bwf
Im ready for Thalnos, who cares about few brazilians.
its been over 24 hours. how about an update from blizzard?
I don’t expect an update until at least Monday; definitely not the weekend for a game that hasn’t launched yet.
Oh no, It is the character names. I’d be willing to move to have a chance on getting the name I want. As of right now, I don’t have the names I want, but I am fine with them. If I had the opportunity to get the names I want on the new server, Id switch. If I didn’t get the names, Id just stay on the new server to help balance it out because Id still be in the same spot I was in while on Herod.
From the days of WoD on I feel that Blizzard has been underestimating the amount of people that wanted to return to the real WoW. Now they have made plans for removing layering because they’re sure we’re all going to play for a few days. The original World of Warcraft was engaging and, frankly, extremely addicting. I felt that addiction return after one weekend.
The Classic WoW number of subs grew like a snowball rolling down a hill, burying the competitors in its path. Some might play Classic for less than a month, but I have a feeling Blizzard might be surprised by how many stay and how many more join. Personally, I see an avalanche coming.
If people are willing to wait in long queues to keep the name(s) they prefer there’s nothing wrong with that; they can stay and wait in queues and the people that don’t care as much about their names can leave for another realm. I don’t see the reason to demonise and insult them; we all have the choice of what realm to play on.