OUCH Low Rated Players Not Going Like This pt2

SKILL vs GEAR - WHO WINS? LFG Challenge with SHADOWMOURNE! - YouTube

things got worse

Good video

This video is an excellent example of how you can abuse MMR to do carries.

Mystic’s personal rating dropped over 200 points (I guess they didn’t want to focus on the losses for some reason) just getting the carry from 1700 to 1770ish. The carry, of course, took minimal hits for losses and big gains for wins.

The priest carry has a holy paldin main that is duelist in SL with a max rating around 2300. It looks like they do carries themselves looking at their 2v2 matches. So, it’s not like he is carrying a bad player relative to who they are fighting.

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Did the video just go private?

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Yes because its dog, and gives them a really bad name tbh.

I thought it was good

They are getting almost entirely negative comments for how dishonest the video is. Coincidentally, they have hidden the video.

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What was good, the fact he abused MMR to basically boost some1? Or the fact that he literally tanked over 200 MMR to have someone climb 71 rating which would suggest a grossly negative winrate, as thats basically 3 wins for the other party.

Qing arena with shadowmourne

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If the point of the video was to show how u can have net positive wins, it did not succeed in that. If the point was to show how you can use high MMR to exploit high point gains for a 3rd party at the cost of your own points, it succeeded.

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What mmr did they play at that you think is exploiting or abusing the mmr system?

If you watched the video, the ret pally starting mmr was 2.2, and the priest was around 1700, after a few mins they show it again and the pally is now at 2k, and the priest at 1771., my guess is the mmr combined was ~2100 to start and ended around 1900.

So the paladin dropped rating playing with a low geared, less xp priest while he had shadowmourne on. Seems about right, did you think he would go up?

Thats still a 2100/1900 team losing to a pally with shadowmourne and a priest in challenger gear. Im willing to bet they were also 226 geared.

What i got from the video was that you can still win even with less gear and climb by playing better.
They know the gearing system isnt the best they were just making a fun challenge for their r1s.

Literally no1 is debating you can “win” games, the assertion is climb rating. You will never climb rating with a negative win% at stagnated MMR.

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Not sure how much he started with because they didn’t show that. They did make the mistake of showing two later scoreboards, however. I’m sure they won’t make the same mistake again.

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You will also never climb using shadowmourne.
If the ret had challenger or rival gear, starting at the mmr as the priest they wouldve had a much better win rate.

Video isn’t available unfortunately.

I am not entirely sure what you are arguing for. The two of them combined had net negative MMR progression from the two images we see. Yes, they didn’t climb because they had Shadowmourn? Question Mark??? What was the point of the video.

Hello??

Why did you not like the video?
Do you think gear is holding YOU back?
Or is your gear being held back because your skill?

I didn’t like the video because its clearly dishonest, and fails to even convey the point they are trying to make. Its basically a trash video.

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