So far they’ve gotten Gilneas, Kul Tiras, Stormwind “original Alliance” provinces and allied Eastern Kingdoms.
My idea of another " race:"
Lordaeronian.
The remnants of this once-proud kingdom has suffered much with the death of their king and the heavy-handed brutality of the Scourge and their then Burning Legion masters.
Survivors of that genocidal apocalypse have banded together under a new Grand Marshal: Arator the Redeemer, Alleria’s and Turalyon’s son.
With the help of Turalyon, the Army of the Light and many other survivors of both the 2nd and 3rd wars, the combined blessings of the priesthood and the martial devotions of the Knights of the Silver Hand have been chosen to be the core identity of the Alliance during Anduin’s absence.
Many former Alliance kingdoms have since galvanized around Turalyon, pressing the promises that High-Commander Anduin Lothar held during the initial conflict between the Horde and Alliance. Joining the Alliance officially would grant equal consideration during council meetings, a voice in the government of the Alliance as a whole and how best to solidify what exactly that partnership actually means in the face of peace/wartime. In times of peace, prepare for war. Peace is worth defending.
The Kirin Tor.: Will address this at a later time.
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Unfortunately, the problem with this is that modern Lordaeronians are split between being part of the Forsaken and being Stormwind refugees.
Also:
There is no whole Alliance government. Each nation makes their own laws. The High King has no say.
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I’m confused about what this idea is supposed to be. Lordaeronians by and large by and large just exist within the surviving human kingdoms or are now a part of the Forsaken. It’s not a new concept.
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Most surviving refugees from Lordaeron have integrated into Stormwind’s populace. There is not a lot that’s distinct about Lordaeronians that Stormwind has not absorbed and made into its own at this point. You need some sort of gimmick to set them apart. Gilneans have the worgen curse with their distinct victorian london vibe, Kul Tirans are physically just giant and also culturally distinct. Lorderon and its refugees lack this.
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If we wanna get down to it, the Lordaeronians have a gimmick - it’s just undeath.
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They could copy the skinny Kul Tiran model, put it on living Lordaeronians, and call it a day.
I mean…yeah. Their gimmick is being bad at being proper dead people. And also being part of the Horde.
I would rather they not ACTUALLY go down the lightforged alliance undead AR path.
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An example of this was some broadcast gossip text between two guards in Stormwind, where one says that he’s from Lordaeron and used to hope that one day it’d be reclaimed, but has given up on that post-blighting of Undercity. You’d never know that guy was Lordaeronian if he hadn’t said anything. Unlike the Gilneans, the refugee Lordaeronians have fully integrated into Stormwind society.
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I was just hoping to give back an alternative to Caelia. I think we’re about to have UD Alliance lordaeronians.
Le sigh
They don’t make sense as their own race or allied race, but maybe as a voice set? It would be nice if we had multiple voices to choose from for each race. I don’t know how the Lordaeron voice would be unique though, since afaik there isn’t a difference in accent.
I was thinking make them really tall (for humans). with a modest body scale skinny-to-athletic. And hardcore about “the Light.” Like borderline Scarlet Crusaders
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Different jokes, or other emotes, talking about Lordaeron. They could have done similar with Mag’har Orcs, with different voicelines for each clan.
Why not just have them be Scarlet Crusaders, then? The Scarlet Crusade was founded by surviving Lordaeronians, and they’re probably the most prominent group of living Lordaeronians at this point, since they didn’t flee south and integrate with Stormwind society.
As others have already pointed out, Lordaeronians are already accounted for in game. Most are Forsaken, with the living survivors primarily split between Stormwind, the Scarlet Crusade, and previously Theramore. Unlike the Gilneans or the Forsaken, the living Lordaeronians who fled south or west didn’t have a clear figurehead to rally around to keep them together as a group in the nearly fifteen years that have passed since the Kingdom of Lordaeron fell to the Scourge. Jaina was the closest to that as the ruler of Theramore, but even then that didn’t include the survivors who fled south to Stormwind instead.
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I was hoping to make the Scarlets join the Alliance.
You start at the Scarlet Monastery, up to level 20, then have awesomely sweeping quests to reassert the throne room of the Lordaeronian Keep.
No king place, just a council chamber with differing aspects of human culture fixated on “the Light,” with Arator the Redeemer as the Lord Marshall of the Northern Eastern Kingdoms.
The Scarlet quest-line would be the taking back of all northern formerly human provinces.
Forsaken can have floating necropoles to counter the cultural shift of said Scarlet quest-lines.
What about not adding anymore human boring race, keep the playable human where they are, in Stormwind and keep Lordaeron in the hand of the people who live in it for neqrly all of Wow and even before, the forsaken…
No need to find the forsaken a new home if you just let them have the one they already have.
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They nuked it. It’s Alliance now. As is Gilneas, as is Kul Tiras. As would be argent crusade/scarlet crusade/knights of the silver hand.
Give Forsaken floating necropoles like in WC3:FT
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Except that it isn’t. The current city is curently held by no one because it is destroyed. But the forsaken currently hold all of it surrounding so they hold the best chance to rebuilt the city.
I mean if you want Caelia, fine. Seems to be what they’re trying to do: force a Light-bound queen either to force the issue and rejoin the Alliance or…: force a new leader for the Horde.
The idea of it being run by the Knights of the Silver Hand works so much better to me.
Just no. Lordaeron have been horde land since Vanila and it is still mostly true to this day. There is no reason to take it from a original playable race just to give them to a boring sub-race that add nothing at all to the game.
Here’s the better idea. Lordaeron is being rebuit as the forsaken capital and they give us a actual interesting new alliance race instead of wasting resource on a other already playable race.
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Would you be for a Scarlet vs. Forsaken standoff/stalemate North vs. South battle line that would introduce both a new playable “race,” (Scarlets) vs. a new playable “race” (whatever Caelia and Derek Proudmoore/Nathanos is.)
Fighting over all major cities in the Northern Easterly Kingdoms?
That would be very neat to see: better than Cataclysm was.