I would be 100% ok with this temporary fix to the COVID quarantine and increased player count.
The bots and mutliboxers really need a crack down though. The black lotus bots are getting insane and getting killed by 9 frostbolts all hitting you at once is lame.
Many individuals such as myself only care about the progression of our characters we have put time into. If many of us transfer off this will most certainly shorten que times for players such as yourself who wish to stay.
There is a lot more to retail than what you mention here pushing people away. Layer sharing between servers. absence of actual talents/specs, level scaling, personal loot to name a few.
Warmode already exists on Classic, thatâs what happens on any PVE server. And the World PVP that happens on these is a lot more interesting than the Ganking/Grieving usually taking place on so called PVP servers.
I can speak only for Arugal, but actual World PVP happened only twice. The first day on P2 in Hillsbrad and the first spawn of Kazak.
I never saw Merc Mode myself, but canât find any issue with it really. Then again I like BC/LK more than Vanilla so I do not have an issue with Paladins in the Horde and Shamans in the Alliance. At least it may give us an objective answer to why the Allies lose so often once the queues have normalized for AV.
As for LFD/LFR no one is forced to engage with them. Like Transmogs. Or Pet fights.
Or, in a more Classic debate, Fishing. Or the rank grind. Or the STV arena. Or anything that you do not enjoy and is not necessary to your play style to be honest.
TL DR : Proposing that anyone in favor of layering to avoid 6h+ queues on raid time go to retail are preposterous and non ingenuous. Thatâs trolling, no matter the wall of text involved. You are bad and you should feel bad.
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How is this even a debate? People cannot play.
Transfers/rerolling will screw things up long term because once people are able to go out the population density will decrease dramatically.
Layers is the perfect solution for a temp problem.
If youâre screaming about the economy and worried your precious hoarded resources will lose value, well, sucks to be you. Itâs a good thing people will be able to gain access to lotus and other materials and not just you.
If a virtual economy is that precious to you, well I can only imagine how you are RL. Anyone who values a virtual economy so they can keep their digital monopoly going at the expense of other paying customers is scum.
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Let me be honest. Iâm primarily a raider, and though I really donât care for layering. When the alternative is a late raid due to a server queue of over an hour with the immediate fix being âlayeringâ then by all means. Do it. But you should also do something to relieve the stress on the servers (free character transfers off server, lock character creation⌠etc) in the meantime so that these issues donât adversely affect the raiding community in the long term.
Yes, not sure why this is even being proposed as a question. Had a 2 hour que last night on Herod at 5 pm ESTâŚ
They opened new servers last time queues were this high. Instead this time they ruin other servers by having mass influxes of transferable. They donât have a clue about the problem.
Turn layering back on imo. Wouldnât change my gameplay experience at all
Seems to me that everyone with an actual life outside the game is in favor of layering to reduce queues. Which Iâd wager is 90% or more of the playerbase.
Honestly, anyone AGAINST layering at this point is probably unemployed and can log on at any time during the morning, and just stay online. I just donât believe that they have actually sat through a 3 hour long queue EVER, or they wouldnât be against layering.
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I am against Layering. Layering is the opposite of classic and separate the community. The people experiencing queues usually chose these servers for the people density so they should have anticipated problems like that to a certain extent.
At all events, there is many other solutions :
- Limiting the number of players for each realm.
- Allowing transfers to other servers;
- Opening new servers.
- Etc.
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I think we should let people with the actual problem decide how theyâll solve it, instead of letting others decide for them, which in this case means players who arenât on full servers.
YES! Please bring back layering temporarily so I can actually play my character! I am considered an âessential employeeâ so I have to still go to work during the pandemic and due to the increase in players during this time, I come home from work and sit in a 2 - 3 hour queue. This has caused me to not be able to raid with my guild anymore. I donât want to leave my server as I have established a guild and friendships on the server. Please bring back layering so I can play the game as I have been before this pandemic occurred. Thank you!
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Still didnt do anything, game is unplayable.
Earthfury officially had a queue last night, really dissapointing since alot of the earlier xfers came to escape being a mega server and it was eventually brought to us. Please do something.
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Everyone blaming Blizzard is so pathetic. If they went full Naz* on where you can and canât play the other section of the playerbase would be complaining. Instead you have full freedom to play anywhere and players choose to swim out to the already sinking titanic cause that is where the people are. They leave behind perfectly good servers which are now empty husks.
The playerbase can not balance itself so shut it. Accept layering or ask for more free transfers to empty servers and rebuild. I am enjoying my 0 queues right now.
Weâre on a realm that rarely ever sees queues, but we had what felt sizable last night. Now, it was only â45â min for me, ended up actually being about an hour. It caused our raid, which was scheduled to start 15 min early to try to knock off BWL and ZG within normal raid time, to start 30 min late, and meant we went quite late.
Iâve been #noChanges from the beginning - however, with time and experience, that has shifted. I, along with my entire guild, are now in favour of layering coming back. Limiting it to a single extra layer (so Pagle would be a two-layer realm) would not only help with our queues when they pop, but would also effectively double the black lotus spawns, RTV/Crystals, and would help to bring the economy back into a more reasonable range. As it is, flasking - even for progression - is cost prohibitive for all except our most adept gold-farmers. We were basically told yesterday that even Edge of Madness is likely to never be done, and I have to believe this comes squarely down to the cost of lotus. Yes, it would help with the few times we experience queues now, but the economic impact would also have a largely positive affect, increasing the supply and lowering the cost of some of these individual, extremely costed items.
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Just do it already and stop debating. Any argument against it (i.e. economy) is pointless if you canât play the game. Faerlina had a 3-4 hour queue last night this is unacceptable. Increase the player cap, add layering and if there is still a queue then also make sure that the amount of horde and alliance that are on at the same time is somewhat even.
Layering⌠Simple
Just wait till your guild are hopping in queue at 3 pm and still running late for 7:30 raids. There is a good chance it will happpen within the next fews days there too, the snowball effect gets way out of control