Yes please. I don’t think layers should have been unilaterally removed in the first place. I used to be in the “No Changes” crowd but it’s clear that without #SignificantChanges the game will never be experienced in the “spirit” of vanilla. A quick look at black lotus prices confirms that.
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I mean. Layering is something we didn’t want from the get go. We wanted you to invest into the revival of Vanilla the way that the pserver communities invested. Daemon and Viper were able to accomplish 15k+ people on at once, mass pvp without slide show lag interactions, and even more through various different methods. Granted, they had their own opportunities but nothing like what we’re seeing from you guys :\
We know we aren’t going to receive that type of dedication and consolation from Blizzard as it requires a great deal of change, architecturally. So, would a 2nd layer be acceptable? I suppose it’s fine, but before you act, much like how you guys have sat on your hands on many other issues. Understand that this means 8x NMD, 2x Azuregos, 2x Kazzak’s, Nx Black Lotus’s, etc.
The economy hasn’t been too much of a concern from Blizzard in the past with their games, but Classic is a bit different, however still a lot less of a priority than people make it out to be. This will also definitely create a different dynamic on PvP servers, dodging one another between layers.
If there was a way to at least address the duplication of key resources (World Bosses, other noteable named mobs, lotuses, etc.) where they would only spawn within one layer or everyone is on that very same layer for the spawn. Then I think this compromise of adding another layer is quite acceptable.
Of course everyone else will demand a 2nd layer immediately without fully understanding the consequences. Choose to listen to who you want, but I think whatever you do is ultimately part of the continuous misses Blizzard has made with Classic.
Maybe this would be the best feedback per the layer inquiry: Why not reach out to Daemon and Viper as to how they would approach this opportunity? Their team tackled this similar issue and with quite resounding success mind you.
It’s aggressive criticism and maybe not the best feedback to swallow or admit. Hopefully you can view it for what its worth though.
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No. I chose classic over retail mainly because it had no layering. You know that’s the main reason why retail degraded over time into the shthole that is is today. When you intruced layering you fractured the whole community.
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Please add another layer to the high pop servers. I have to login 4 hours before raid just to make sure I’m on time. I need a solution to reduce my wife aggro.
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Blizzard isn’t going to add layers to your 2k pop server. This will probably ONLY be on whitemane and faerlina. Resources dont matter since the pop on these server is 3-4x the normal amount on a classic vanilla server. Also there isn’t even a “community” aspect anymore. All people do is farm and raid log now.
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yes please!
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Please for the love of God add layers. The queues are really long.
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Please turn this on. With the current pandemic and the release of ZG in a few days the queues on the large serves are only going to get worse.
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Yes, please bring back layering while these long queue times persist! The most important change to my gameplay experience would be actually being able to play the game i pay to play instead of waiting in line.
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BLIZZARD PLEASE DO NOT DO LAYERING AGAIN. Just fix your servers lag so we can pvp on a large scale because that’s what this game is ALL ABOUT. Stop being lazy PLEASE, were paying for a 15 year old game and it’s not even close to how it was. Private servers did it better.
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Also dcing for 5 minutes to then sit in a 3 hour long que almost made me want to quit playing. Please add it to warmane. Anyone saying no is a black lotus farmer wanting more gold for playing 20+ hours a day
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My battleground queues below level 60 are 2 hours anyway, I don’t mind a 2 hour login queue. If sub-60 pvpers have to sit in horrible queues after every battleground, then I don’t see a problem with players having to wait ONCE? Seems fair. Leave it alone.
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Please put layering back in!
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No. Layering is bad. Destroys economy. Destroys Classic experience.
You should set server caps at 60/40 horde;alliance ratios, neither faction can go above it. You should have not allowed people to transfer to full servers. This is your fault. Don’t destroy Classic because you don’t know how to cap server or correctly implement server transfers.
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Yes please, temporary fix for the long queues would be nice.
If you have a job that didn’t close down, or one that doesn’t allow you to work from home (Medical professional, Fireman, First responder, etc) the queue on Whitemane makes it impossible to play with your guild. Some people don’t have the ability to log on 4-5 hours before when their playtime is. Please turn back on Layering on the high pop servers, and not just 1 extra layer but as many layers as needed to make the queue manageable.
Thank you for looking in to a solution. For some people this is what keeps them sane during this time, and the stress of not having the ability to be on a server with friends and family in a timely manner is pretty terrible.
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what economy? Black lotus mafias?
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Personally yes, if this gets rid of queues on high pop realms. I see a lot of people in this thread talking about multi-boxers or inflated resources. Which is valid but overblown, black lotus are already transferred from low-pop/dead servers from farmers, multiboxers are less than 1% of the player base and herbs/arcane crystals already have their own instances farms like DME. I dont see there being a massive impact from a short term solution of adding two layers.
you should increase the black lotus spawns and make them random while youre at it.
You can also ban botting/multiboxers that clog up the queue with multiple accounts controlled by a single person/IP and allow actual people to play the game
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I’d actually prefer it if you removed the split of na battlegroups. At least for sub 60 bgs.