They backed up on that before 10.1 even launched.
I’m glad they’re finally actually going away now though.
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No more borrowed power SYSTEMS. The ring was just something fun for end of season and they said they’d keep an eye on it and nerf it if needs be. So they did.
A ring isn’t a borrowed power system. It’s just an armor piece like tier or set bonus stuff.
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So you’re nerfing the Annulet, which contributes a significant amount of WW damage and are only buffing us 2%…when we are already one of the lowest DPS specs?
Fancy.
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HEY THANK YOU BLIZZARD! Seriously though. I never got that item on any of my 70s. Dont know how and dont care. The new zone came out too soon before I finished Forbidden reach. Systems are lame stop introducing new ones. Build upon the ones we have OR replace old ones with new ones. Having systems upon systems is also lame.
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I am noticing a distinct lack of compensation for hunters.
Those stones literally make up 10-13% of hunters dps. They are one of the most reliant classes on those rings. Much more than the classes you did compensate for the loss.
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same with the tanks
well hope i get a ring out the box next Tuesday
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nice, i fully expect outlaw to be in the dumpster when this goes through
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SHAMAN * Elemental * Mana regeneration increased by 100% (was 150%).
Thats it, thats the entire elemental shaman entry.
Thanks for the “compensation”…
Does anyone at Blizzard have any clue what they’re doing, or are they literally throwing darts at the wall.
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Good thing but not sure the compensation is enough for some specs. if the annulet was your Bis it means you scale poorly with secondaries and it’s not going to get better.
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Look, these changes absolutely make sense (I was a day 1 Onyx Annulet hater and the fact that it remains BiS for a lot of specs to this day is bad), but I feel like the nerfs/compensatory tuning changes still miss the core reason why the Annulet (and to an extent the Eranog ring) are so strong for a certain few specs and got replaced relatively quickly for most others (or, in some cases, just weren’t used at all).
Here’s the fact of the matter: every single spec that uses the Onyx Annulet for damage purposes either has low baseline damage (tanks/healers, specifically) or scales atrociously with Haste/Mastery. If a spec actively likes Vers in PvE, it means that their other stats are straight-up terrible. There’s also a lot of overlap between those two groups, because right now Rogues and Windwalker Monks are perpetually falling further and further behind as specs like Devastation, Unholy, Arcane, Shadow, and Demonology get more gear.
Case-in-point:
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Havoc REALLY likes Crit and KYE buffs stuff like Annulet, Diurna’s Chosen, trinkets, and Toxic Thorn Footwraps/Slimy Expulsion Boots (“borrowed power” damage), but doesn’t like Mastery much in ST or Haste in AoE.
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Outlaw and Subtlety hate Haste so much that some of their best gear setups quite literally go into the negatives with the Slimy Expulsion Boots. They gain nothing from Power Infusion, they gain little from Bloodlust, and as such they gravitate towards Crit/Vers (and in Sub’s case, a little Mastery but not much) which buffs all damage, including the damage sources that aren’t theirs. That’s why Bomb Dispenser and Beacon are so incredibly powerful for these specs, too.
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Windwalker only really likes Haste during Serenity windows, and even then it’s less “they really like it” and more “it’s alright.”
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Healer Mastery does absolutely nothing for them offensively, and healing is a zero-sum game. The damage from the Annulet in content that doesn’t require 24/7 healing throughput simply encourages healers to stack the stats that do contribute towards their damage, because the stats that contribute towards their damage still have some value for healing output.
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Tanks have low baseline damage (as is typically the case) so the Annulet contributes a ton of damage because the Annulet just does base damage. Blood DK in particular is egregiously bad on this front and needs some serious reevaluation from a design perspective that can find a middle ground between Blood’s historically-terrible damage even by tank standards and whatever the hell happened in SL Seasons 3/4 thanks to a broken set bonus and Gavel.
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MM Hunter aggressively stacks crit and as such the Annulet is quite strong for it compared to the specs that aggressively stack Haste/Mastery (Evoker, SPriest, Warlock, and Unholy even though it’s melee).
With all that in mind, these changes are fine and definitely needed, but the specs that used the Onyx Annulet need a reevaluation that at least makes them want to go for Mastery/Haste, even if they aren’t their best stats. You’re gonna need to keep giving Rogues and Monks an aura buff every other patch (or sometimes multiple times per patch) because as it stands they just don’t scale well with gear.
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pls nerf the healing stones.
i dont want to use this 424 ring anymore
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Well, this is what happened when they balanced it to be good for boomkin/warlock in 10.0.7 via massive post launch buffs, then forgot to check that it wouldn’t beat items 200 ilvls higher for rogues/havoc/tanks/healers.
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And then people wonder why the Annulet was a pretty widely despised addition to the game.
Class balance is generally good (like, everyone’s within ~15% of one-another or something which is impressive as hell), but this and the Eranog ring have done a very good job at exposing a massive fundamental problem with how the classes that like the Annulet still scale with their secondary stats. Or, rather, it highlights the fact that they generally don’t scale with their secondary stats beyond Crit/Versatility, which buff rings like these or trinkets like Bomb Dispenser or Beacon to the Beyond.
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I think it would have been fine if they hadn’t given it the 80% buff it got post launch.
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Sure, but then other classes wouldn’t have wanted to use it.
Blizzard wanted this ring to be BiS for everyone. They still missed the mark on that front since it wasn’t really used as an SPriest outside of Terros, but people didn’t want this damn item to exist in the first place for a good reason.
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You guys left out Fury, since my Annulet still sims as like my #4 ring option without easy access to 447 rings. It was collectively 8% of my damage on Heroic Sark just a few minutes ago; that’s going to be really hard to replace with two secondary stats and feel “okay”.
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What’s wrong with letting something be good for more than the tier it came in?
Especially since it came very late in the tier.
Stupid change.
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Now you know how we all felt every time an expansion ended and borrowed power was disabled. DPS went into trash bin.
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I think they are less concerned about the people for whom it’s the number 4 option than they are for the people where that ring is #1 or #2.
Borrowed power. Thats whats wrong with it, it outlived its intended usefulness.
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