“We’re done here”
If only.
If someone whispers you if you wanna tank a dungeon that’s not them giving you an opportunity because they like you, it’s them wanting to run a dungeon and they need you, or anyone to tank.
If I ask the guild chat “anyone wanna tank X” it’s usually self serving, but your guild is your small community that you trust/like better than a random dooder in Dalaran.
If you have to start resorting to whispering random people, potentially bugging them for your own self-serving reason that’s not being considerate to the community or whatever delusion you’ve got going on.
RDF lets people who want to do whatever, get grouped together to do similiar things they want to do.
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If someone whisper me on my server to tank, I know he’s an active player looking for other active players. I might even talk to him or add him to my friend list if the experience is fun enough. I might even get invited to a raid someday when he’s in or recruit him in my guild. All of that from a single “Want to tank xyz”
It’s not because you don’t talk with people that I have to not talk with them. RDF being crossrealm breaks a lot of those possiblities as unless I had a really good time the first time I might not meet him again. Getting connections with people take time and LFG teach you in small ways how to do that.
I get it, getting a queue for a dungeon is a pretty good QoL and leveling is less important in Wrath and because you can buy a boost. But RDF would still work against the need to make more social relations on your server.
Yes they could have launched RDF with the launch of Wrath and I wouldn’t have bat an eye. But if we’re talking about it, I still think there are other ways to accomplish what RDF did without crossrealm RDF.
I’m gonna take a small break I’ll be back later if you guys are up for more of it.
Do you know why they might add you to their friends list? So they have a convenient tank when they wanna do tomorrow’s daily or world tour or whatever. If you got an interaction from a whisper for a dungeon, that’s not a friendship built on similiar interests, it’s a relationship built on convenience and benefit.
Maybe it’ll blossom into something more, but don’t pretend they whispered you because they like you.
Know what gives that benefit and socialization faster? RDF. More people to pull from, bigger pool of players to talk with, maybe talk and ask how their server is or what it’s like. You act like you literally can’t interact with other people on other servers, like you can’t become friends with them. Apathy was right, you have this weird server tribalism going on, it’s weird.
Edit: No, 5 man dungeons and whispering out of desperation is not community building. It’s trying to fix a broken system by salvaging a bad situation.
What is really the community is the raiding scene, be it a guild you got into, hosted pug groups and General/Trade chat.
And you know why people want RDF? Because it’s convenient. That’s kinda the whole point. Making friends is what is convenient without RDF.
That’s only true because you have made it this way when you join a big server. You can only handle a certain amount of people in your circle. Having a small server solve that.
I’m willing to bet you call people you seen around your server a “friend”.
They are not your friends, they have a use for you and that’s it.
You meeting these people IRL?? If not they ain’t your friends.
Friends are nice and convenient sure, but you’re not gonna have friends available at all time, whenever at your beck and call.
Know what lets me queue what I want when I want? RDF.
My brother in christ i keep telling you I was on Skyfury, a dying server until I eventually took the free transfer off because it was literally dead.
Yes and RDF keeps being more convenient, which is also an advantage of RDF. But that doesn’t mean that the goals of LFG are bad. They are just less convenient if your goal is just to get through the content.
I don’t blame you for taking the transfer, but there are still other smaller servers and I’m sure you decided to pick the bigger one.
Yes, because I want people to do sh*t with. I don’t wanna be stuck in dalaran with nobody to do anything with.
I wouldn’t pick the biggest server if RDF was in the game, but here we are.
Yes so you chose the easy way out. Which is often the same choice people make when they say they want RDF. They don’t want the hassles of LFG.
It’s totally fair.
THE HASSLES OF LFG!? Holy I’m having an aneurysm dealing with this guy.
I played on a locked, dying server. Bleeding players. I knew what it was like wanting to do heroics and seeing nobody in LFG. “Just whisper people” I get told, just be a genuine nuisance to everyone who if they were interested would have signed themselves up on LFG to begin with.
You can’t run content if nobody is interested.
You tell me I picked a bad server that it’s my fault and now you’re telling me I picked an easy out because I don’t wanna deal with LFG by not transferring to another dead server.
This guy. I swear.
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Anti rdf people have actual dents in their heads
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And if I send enough letters to Santa he’ll get me a new graphics card.
Delusions lmao
Current social interactions for dungeons in LFG:
Everyone:Hello
*Kill first boss
*Kill other bosses
*Kill last boss
Everyone: ty for run
*Everyone leaves
Social interaction with RDF:
Everyone: Hi
*Kill first boss
*Kill other bosses
*Kill last boss
Everyone: ty for run
*Everyone leaves
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Pretty much it.
The hassles of LFG include not being able to run content at all time if people you know aren’t online. Yes it’s not a system that was made to be able to do content 24/7 whenever you wanted. Yes I’ve agreed that if the goal was only to do the content RDF was better. And that was never my point that LFG was a faster way to make a group.
I’ve played on a smaller server named Maladath. I know the struggles and still managed through many times. The difference is we never had that mega server pop that Skyfury hit so people were fine with it.
I like the dramatization, yes it happens often but that doesn’t mean it’s always like this. The game can only help you to meet people what happens after is because of you. If this is the only experience you had maybe it tells more about you than how the game system works.
This is typically how it goes tho
Also even if it was rdf the experiences and being social are still up to you. There is no difference if you don’t talk in LFG or don’t talk in rdf.
The difference is those interactions cannot happen again unless you add them to your friend list which rarely will happen the first time. Keeping interactions to server only lets you meet the same people again easily which then can grow into more.
No it’s the same.
If you and I are leveling a toon and we both meet in ZF and then we call itz the odds of our schedules lining up along with our leveling speed also lining up to do another dungeon later in the week is extremely unlikely.
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