On the Issue of Selfish Players in Classic: AQ Gong

[Vhok-misha (Vhok)]

@Ashkandii-saurfang

If you are crazy enough to grind that chain quest you gotta be alert of course. Just like if you are on your final week of R14 you cant go to sleep after you’ve honor capped, just because you simply cannot trust people.
But at least you have 10 hours to complete the bang the gong quest. So even if you sleep or work just make sure you are back online once every 8 hours to check and you’re good.

i remember it being 8 hours

[Swani-arathor (Swani)]

10 hours to bang the gong. Always has been.

https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/The_Scepter_of_the_Shifting_Sands_quest_chain

Five days after the collection quest is complete, [Bang a Gong!] is offered. Completing this quest by ringing [The Scarab Gong] will start the [10 Hour War] server event. This quest ceases to be available 10 hours after it was first completed on the realm

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

Blizzard intended for one lucky person to bang the gong. They were nice and allowed anyone close enough do it too.

But if someone does it before everyone else, well… Too bad.

[Meemuu-wyrmrest-accord (Meemuu)]

@Adraxis-suramar

I want to know if Blizz will do anything to try to prevent this kind of behaviour.

I hope not. they really need to stay out of the sandbox in order for it to feel like an immersive world.

[Mysfyre-norgannon (Mysfyre)]

@Adraxis-suramar

selfish players

So because they won’t wait for you to catch up they’re selfish?

How long is the server suppose to wait? What about the people who are a week behind, have to wait for them before YOU do it, or you’re the selfish one now. Waiting for everyone means nobody progresses. Making the window indefinite is the only way that “nobody misses out” but that kills the game. Don’t kill the game.

Screw entitled welfare “i should have everything i want” players, you want it go earn it, and the world (of warcraft) owes you nothing. Life isn’t fair and sometimes it sucks. Week after week, year after year, ZG/Kara never gave up their mounts… My luck wasn’t there, doesn’t mean they should change the game for me.

You have the same odds as anyone else, but do you have the dedication and resources required?

Good luck in the race.

[Mini-firetree (Mini)]

This actually brings up a question that I think has been asked but I can’t find where but will these mobs/quests be time gated as well?

And actually as I’m writing this I’m realizing even if they are in you’d only be able to progress as far as the phase we’re in allows which is still an advantage but even if the mobs are in game it wouldn’t be to hard to lock the fragments from their loot table so even if all the parts are there we still wouldnt be able to get the rep needed to even begin the quest until the AQ phase

[Dieselwarden-whisperwind]

This is the kind of mentality that does not belong in Classic. The game was not designed to make everyone feel important and special. If you are looking for that play Retail.

[Gnostik-sisters-of-elune]

Yeah, for all the things I MIGHT do in Classic if I get the chance, this probably won’t be one of them. I can’t imagine putting 10 hours into a quest chain only to have it come up worthless, I doubt by the time I’m in a position to grind it it will still be available, I may no-life at times but I’m not that focused so I doubt I’ll be seeing this. I’ve seen exactly one “Scarab Lord” in all my years of WoW and it was back in TBC, and all the guy did was run around undercity on it all but screaming “look at mah exclusivitah!”

[Cheater-azjolnerub (Cheater)]

@Adraxis-suramar

Well I have no job but I do have insomnia lol
And I’ll likely be running with From Chaos who are a pretty decent Suramar guild. I think those factors increase my odds at least a little.

I guess I’ll just have to give it all I’ve got and we’ll see if I get the mount I’ve been coveting for over a decade lmao

Of course I have my hopes set as low as I can, but the determination is real

Pretty much any guild leader is going to take this mount for themselves. It has always been this way in 95% of cases unless they’re too lazy to farm it.

[Pärker-wyrmrest-accord (Pärker)]

@Luuni-area-52

But other than that, I wouldn’t have this be one of your goals for Classic. Seems like too big of a let down if you don’t get it.

I honestly want to get it, but I don’t feel like I can commit to a raid group. Only one person can get the red crystal each time you run Blackwing Lair. That’s 40 weeks for one dedicated raid group to be able to finish the quest chain if they wanted to wait on everyone, which is just not gonna happen for anyone. Someone is going to screw it up for the people who want to wait.

Everyone is already going to prematurely stack things for the war effort, it’s gonna get a huge head start from the jump versus how it sort of organically happened back in the day. Everyone already figured the game out, the event is gonna be a mess…

I would imagine we’re gonna see guilds dissolve because of this.

I am gonna miss out on it, but I already resigned myself to and I’ll just focus on everything else I actually could do.

[Luuni-area-52]

Lucky for me I dislike bugs and don’t like a “bug” mount. So I’ll be there in Silithus. Ganking people who are doing this quest chain.

[Ironpelt-greymane]

It’s a funny thing. We could have easily got atleast a few if not several people through the questline. Our GM was against doing it inside the guild. I recall him thinking that it would end up screwing atleast a couple guildmates, or end up having to favor one person over another. So he basically said if people needed help, they could find it elsewhere. The guild wasn’t going to actively participate in the quests.

Looking back, it was probably a wise decision… we had heard of another guild suffering infighting over some item that dropped one per raid. Our GM saw what was coming and put a wall in front of it.

I’m not even sure we knew what the end rewards were. It’s been a long time and I wasn’t concerned with it, not even back then.

Nobody should have to wait on others, but nobody should get their hopes up either. Some people/guilds already have plans to be ready the minute the mats are in.

[Skjaldbjorn-lightbringer (Skjaldbjorn)]

This is kind of like world bosses spawning at 2AM and tryhards waking up their entire guild to go kill it. Personally I think all of this stuff should have been restricted to prime time hours.

It wasn’t though, so I lean towards no changes.

[Kolben-icecrown (Kolben)]

@Adraxis-suramar

What will be done to prevent one single person or a small handful of people from f*cking over entire servers, if anything?

Probably nothing.

An MMORPG can’t be a curated experience where nobody can do anything wrong. In this case they didn’t break any game rules, they just didn’t do it when it was convenient for you and your friends.

I think if Blizzard has to police what players are doing to make everything fair it will kill the game. Come up with a system in your guild to alert players to log in.

[Shosonna-stormrage (Shosonna)]

You wont find those people all alone and ripe for the picking. Good luck ganking the “Guilds” doing this chain. People will be well prepared for you. It’s really impressive how much work and preparation goes into claiming the mount. I imagine these people have thought of everything, from gankers, to posting a watch on the gong ( When the time comes )

[Mysfyre-norgannon (Mysfyre)]

@Pärker-wyrmrest-accord

I am gonna miss out on it, but I already resigned myself to and I’ll just focus on everything else I actually could do.

Same. I’d love the mount, or even be part of the group that gets the mount, but not going to happen… So my goals are Every profession pattern in the game for my chosen profs, Rhok, and Benediction.

[Dealloc-dethecus (Dealloc)]

@Adraxis-suramar

I want that AQ mount and title from the Scepter of the Shifting Sands questline.

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[Twiinkedd-moon-guard]

If you want the everyone gets a trophy play style then BfA is there waiting for you.

[Badminou-kelthuzad]

As stated, if you want to be rewarded just because you were online for it then BFA would suit you greatly.

[Belkira-tichondrius]

I’m mean it’s a “Race” not a “Participation”. My server had some guild ring the gong at 3:00am also, lots of people were pissed off but that’s how competitions work, some people win and some lose.