On the evolution of, groan, High Elves (aka Highvale Elves and Light Elves)

TL;DR: There is a case that Alliance High Elves are or will soon become Highvale Elves (Bel’dorei) and, perhaps, Silver Covenant / Dalarani “Light” Elves (Al’dorei)


I know, I know, yet another post about elves… ugh. But hear me out…

No more are the High Elves: In their place stand the Sin’dorei, Blood Elves of the Horde; banished from their ranks are the Ren’dorei, Alliance Void Elves. The Highborn have since become the Night Elves: Alliance Kaldorei, including the Eldorei or Shen’dralar, those who hid in Eldre’Thalas; in Suramar, they have become Nightborne, Shal’dorei, allies with the Horde and cousins of the Nightfallen and Fal’dorei.

Those Kaldorei who were exiled took to the sun and Sunwell instead. We all know this story, but the small (yet growing) remnant who stayed true to the Alliance have some interesting upcoming plotlines, I think

Here is a mix of headcanon and what I have come to learn about what remain of the High Elves:

Quel’dorei, “Children of Noble (lit. High) Birth,” made their home in Quel’Thalas at Silvermoon, with their spiritual centre at Quel’Danas, the Sunwell. After the destruction and splintering of their nation, three major splits happened: One sought refuge in their Lodges, the other stayed amongst the Humans and other magi, particularly at Dalaran, and the last went to Draenor.

(spoiler: Those at Quel’Lithien became Wretched)

Dalaran, Quel’Danil, and the Allerian Stronghold became centres of High Elven activity within the Alliance. Those of the Kirin Tor and Silver Covenant both distanced themselves from their Blood Elven kin and warmly welcomed back those of the Alliance Expedition. Danassian Elves practise light and arcane magic and are led by Vareesa Windrunner

These Elves come together and, holding true to their roots when first exiled from the Druidic, moon-worshipping Kaldorei, forge a new name for themselves, one in direct opposition to the Sin’dorei Sunreavers . They find community in the Human, Gnomish, and other magi of Dalaran and other Alliance cities. Within their ranks are numerous Half-Elven communities, whom they publicly call Shan’are “honoured ones” but privately label Vor’dorei “Children of the Broken”

Danillian Elves, on the other hand, have found community with the Wildhammer Dwarves most especially. In-game, some Draenei have made Quel’Danil their home, and these Highvale Draenei follow the shamanic path first laid by Nobundo, learning to become druids. With Seradane so close, the Wildhammers, Danai,* and Highvale Elves commune with the Kaldorei and Worgen. Thus the Highvale Elves begin to consider themselves a distinct elven nation. In their concordance with the Wildhammers, their bodies (adorned with tattoos) become thicker and more stout, becoming the shortest and widest of elves. Similarly, these Highvale Draenei, or (*) Danai, come to intermix with their neighbours resulting in browner and greener, tattoo’d, and more nature-y space goats

Thus:

  • Kaldorei - Children of the Stars - Night Elves
  • Eldorei - Children of Eldre’Thalas - Shan’dralar
  • Shal’dorei - Children of the Night - Nightborne
  • Fal’dorei - Children of Falanaar / followers of Aranasi
  • Sin’dorei - Children of Blood / of the Bloodline - Blood Elves
  • Quel’dorei - Children of Noble (lit. High) Birth

Some useful Thalassian words:

  • Quel - High, Noble
  • Belore - Sun
  • Alah - Light
  • Thas - Forest
  • Danil - ? Peak

(*)For the goats:

  • -nai = “with / person of a place” e.g., Kurenai, Auchenai)
  • -dor = settlement (e.g., Talador, Telredor)
  • Quel’Danil > Danidor (in Draenic, a borrowing) > Danai
  • (There is no word for “mountain” or “peak” or even “high” in-game in the Draenei language, so I did my best with “Danai”)

For the Elves…

Highvale Elves: Either keep Quel’dorei for its literal use of “high”/“quel,” or transition to Thas’dorei (ew), or Bel’dorei, a shortening of Belore’dorei “Children of the Sun” as both a way to stay true to Sun-worshipping heritage, keep in allied complementary opposition to Kaldorei’s Elune worship, and a nod to the new Night Elven home of Bel’Ameth. I convinced myself writing this: Bel’dorei for Highvale Elves

Danassian Elves: These are the elves that still ‘shun’ nature worship, maintain an arcane practice, and follow the Light. They are spread around, but their capital is Dalaran now. They oppose the Blood Elves but still need to sate their needs and thus still utilize the Sunwell as the font of power it is. They are Children of the Light, or Light Elves, and Alah’dorei or, for short, Al’dorei in Thalassian (now Danassian)

  • Danai - Those from Danidor (Quel’Danil) - Highvale Draenei
  • Bel’dorei - Children of the Sun - Highvale Elves
  • Al’dorei - Children of the Light - Dalarani (&c.) High Elves
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Imagine a world were blizzard introdues another elf race to the Alliance, and it’s Lightforged Elves.

Jokes aside, is there actually any proof of this happening or did you just think it was a cool idea?

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Wrong, Highborne were just a caste of Night Elves.

Alot of them became High Elves.

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Highvale Elves are currently referred to as such in-game, though they are more descriptors than anything else. So, on that front, not really.

…however, the Highvale Draenei have moved into Quel’Danil, and it is canon that the Highvale Elves and Wildhammer Dwarves (and ig now Draenei too) have a unique relationship amongst the elves

For light elves, the Silver Covenant (and Alliance Expedition) are canon in-game, so too is there animosity against the Blood Elves. To many High Elves in Dalaran before the destruction of Silvermoon, Dalaran was more of their home to them than Quel’Thalas. The quip about Half Elves is an assumption based on in-game lore and the use of real Thalassian / Darnassian words (e.g., Vor = broken and Shan’are for “respected ones”). Their use of arcane and their worship of the Light are canon facts

In medium, this post uses in-game lore and posits what the next steps could be. It seems to me that the devs are setting up for (perhaps) shorter, stocker, nature-loving High Elves in the Danillian Highvale Elves, and it seems that the Dalarani High Elves are integrating more into the Human-led use of arcane and worship of light. Based on other RPGs, the use of “Light Elf” would make the most sense based on precedent and lore (but yeah, you are right, big sigh if they introduce another lightforged, but to me it lines up…)

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If I was a High Elf I would go to rehab and get some help, after 6 months of treatment I could re-enter society as a Night Elf again.

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Surprisely the Night Elf Highborne haven’t been made playable yet atleast in terms of options is beyond me.

I mean, the reason we have NE mages is because NE Highborne are playable.

They just don’t really look any different.

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Wrong, Highborne were just a caste of Night Elves.
Alot of them became High Elves.

You are very correct, sorry and thank you for the clear up! ^^

Why isn’t it spelled Kal’dorei and El’dorei?

It’s not that surprising when you consider that the Night Elves are a largely lowborn population that embraced druidism and the worship of Elune, with only a tiny minority of former Highborne in their ranks.

The reason Night Elves have access to the mage class is because they were instructed by the few Shendralar who were admitted into Kaldorei society. How an individual roleplays their character is up to them, but that’s the actual reasoning.

Non-Sin’dorei Thalassians are blood traitors.

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this is cool

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this is cool

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is this cool

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It is canonical that the Kaldorei, or Night Elves, call themselves that and not “Kal’dorei,” I believe (though there might be places where they use the apostrophe in-game, and I missed them…)

Perhaps it is a marker of the plural as one Tumblr user thinks(*), or perhaps it is just the Darnassian way of structuring it?

*–Since I cannot include links, google up the post “Darnassian Primer” on The Silver Circle blog on tumblr

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blood elves are pretty much already this aside from the faction part. They are slowly being white washed into the light worshippers of the horde. That’s what them getting the light eyes was all about awhile ago.

This is just a copypaste of the same thing from there, from a 14 day old account (which is on Reddit universally a sign of a troll and/or throwaway account). And the OP’s character joined the same day on these forums.

Looking over their stuff… most of it is made up or nabbed straight from commonly known phrases that have been translated and then extrapolated to give additional nonsensical meanings.

This is just a surprisingly elaborate trolling-thread. If you are making up stuff, just be honest with that and talk about it like “hey I made something new”. Exceedingly little of this is grounded in actual lore, and it is phrased as if this is based off of lore.

https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftlore/comments/18cany7/on_the_evolution_of_high_elves/

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I have half-jokingly been saying that Blizzard will one day rename Belves to Day Elves.

Counterpoint: Exterminate the elves.

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Lightforged Elves sound as redundant as the original LF Draenei. With the Sunwell changing into a fountain of the Light, Blood Elves are pretty much Lightforged Elves already.