Old Content Scaling and Ion's response in QA

Most of us, seriously. Wow I’ve never heard a more wrong post. Timewalk and let the “Majority” that want to solo mog/mount run old raids out of your comment.

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Great…that’s what Timewalking is for though. People want to be able to go back and solo old content at high levels. Transmog collecting, mount collecting, pet collecting (there are even achievements for this), whatever.

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My point would be how many of the non raiding elites were included in the beta test. Not that some reported, just the quantity of reports for the idiots to take notice.

Unless they fix this, I’ll never be back. if they DO fix it, I will never buy an expansion again until I know they didn’t break old content.

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I’m with you on this 100%. Never again will I buy 3+ month subs either. I waited 2 years to be able to explore Legion raids(since I don’t raid current content). I’m not waiting any longer.

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Community Managers were fired, all information regarding behind the scenes issues are now firmly kept there - likely due to the fact that they have zero knowledge on how to unstick this pig.

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Soon they’ll have the audacity to announce that the players are more engaged in the current content than in the old ones.

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Dude…I don’t even want to run CURRENT content with groups. I have a very stressful job, and my gaming time is my own - I don’t want to deal with people in any capacity. I’m super annoyed right now because all my alts have dungeon and raid quests from BFA filling up the quest logs. I was waiting until the new expac to comfortably solo them, like I’ve done with all previous expacs. With the level squish, that plan went down the toilet, at least for the foreseeable future.

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Just letting you know blizz devs you lied. Merry Christmas nerds.

I’m enjoying Shadowlands. But one of the fun things of each expansion has been to be able to go back a couple of them and experience the content that we didn’t have the opportunity to experience when it was current. I pretty much play solo, and I enjoy being able to experience the older dungeons and raids eventually either by myself or with a friend - I don’t mind waiting until my level is high enough to do so - and WOW has always been encouraging of this. Shadowlands is great and all but one of the things I was looking forward to was experiencing the raids in Legion once I was 60, and the dungeons in BFA as well. If thats not the case anymore, than I guess this isn’t the game for me and as much as it pains me to think about it, maybe my time here is done. If this was a concious decision it was a poor one. If its just broken because of the squish thats unfortunate. Either way it needs to be fixed.

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I just ran Siege of Boralus with two level 60’s. They both had ilvl’s in the 170’s. They saw the mobs and bosses with the same amount of health I did, and they absolutely blew up the dungeon while taking almost no damage. I was resto but I felt like a third wheel, I mostly just had to heal myself. The important part: the mobs were NOT scaling past level 50 for them…for every boss we compared how much health we saw on them, and they saw the same thing my level 50 did.

(I wasn’t on this toon, I was on my alliance level 50 shaman that I am keeping locked at 50 for now.) So…is this broken or not? The 179 windwalker monk said he was able to solo normal Uldir up to G’huun (but wasn’t quite able to beat G’huun yet).

In custom group finder, the legacy raid section, it’s legit always empty… There will be a few groups with only 3 players in them. :frowning: It’s hopeless. and for stuff where you actually need to follow mechanics people leave on any wipe. I just want to solo mog runs and not deal with people.

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Oh yeah, level 60 rare elite SL mobs are so easily soloable, under a minute usually, while level 50 BFA mobs in Uldum legit took me 6 minutes and I went crazy killing them.

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You have an immense misunderstanding of story/power progression in this game. Those bosses are already dead lore wise. We’ve already beaten them. We have gotten stronger, with the power of these gods infused in to us through gear and abilities. I mean, we literally go between life and death at will at this point through multiple means.

We are gods to these old bosses in terms of strength. That’s the point. In the lore you are the champion of your faction. The Best. Strongest. Even in relation to people like Jaina and Thrall. You save them, not the other way around. You need to understand this to understand why Ion is a moron with his reasoning and why your reasoning is just based on misunderstanding of the game and story.

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This precisely and nothing else. EVERYTHING in this game is a thoughtless, heartless, greedy time gate now. There is no actual game play, only impediment.

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for sure timewalk it for people who want that, but dont have that being the only option. I’ve done many solo old content runs for transmog and mounts over the years. I dont want to throw away that gameplay because its gameplay i have played in the past and am not against (i still lack many mounts).

Simply just removing the ability for players to just go in and smash the content solo for a 1% mount drop is weird and confusing. Who benefits from such a change? No one. Old contennt raid groups are practically non existant, and now soloing is also practically non existant. So all those raids might as well be deleted, its just sizeable 3d model assets that must be downloaded by anyone installing the game for utterly no benefit or reason

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So, I have a theory. I’m pretty sure Activision cut their development resources. We all know they have data for every aspect of the game, including who is running new content like dungeons and raids. I have a theory that not as many people ran end game content in BfA and Ion was told, get more people involved in the end game, or we will cut more from your development budget.

So, they come up with the Torghast treadmill to keep people “engaged” while simultaneously knee-capping our ability to run the old stuff that we are interested in.

Just a theory.

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This is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever. You are hurting people who want to transmog there gear very very badly.

Old content should be soloable as it always has been. It is content of yesterday not of today. Why should people be dying to mobs of 3-4 expansions ago?

And why should it take 30 minutes to kill one trash mob?

This is insanity. Classic/Vanilla wow is put together better then this and has more integrity. Least it doesn’t take a half hour to down a trash mob. Nor protected by a scaling barrier making it into top rate bullet sponge.

I guess it won’t take long before classic wow gets messed up too. So I guess i’m done with this game for good.

You really think putting every mob behind some scale shield turn every mob in the game into bullet sponges is fun? Well I think you need to re read the definition of the word fun. I question your knowledge on the word fun if you think wacking bullet sponges is fun.

You might as well equip all your level 1 starting gear and go wack on a training dummy all day and for the rest of wow for the fun it is to have this Scaling shield protecting mobs.

Where is the progression that your character is getting stronger or is it in reverse you get weaker as you level and get weaker yet as you equip higher gear?

Why bother leveling then and why bother doing content just stay level 1 and wonder around aimlessly oh joy.

I cannot believe this madness.

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/10-levels-and-no-stronger-than-the-end-of-bfa/748790/892

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One simple word “Ion”, he could literally care less.

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