I’m curious if there are more casual players or I don’t know how to word this, actually, play the game more than an hour and actually do stuff? Like M+, PVP, Raiding, etc. Because I don’t exactly want to say hardcore, because we all know not everyone is hardcore. Unless, if we want to specify hardcore as doing heroic raids and doing like 20+ keys or something. Or if we’re talking esports hardcore. But anywho, I ask this question because I saw someone post on the forums where everyone who plays this game is casual.
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Casual is a subjective term that is often used to justify just about any agenda.
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no one can gatekeep what you consider a casual.
i consider myself casual yet i had KSM last season.
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What definition of casual are we using? Time played or content participated in?
I prefer the time played definition personally.
People on here like to claim that the majority of players don’t participate in Raids/Mythic+/Rated PvP, but that’s just a myth fuelled by a martyr complex.
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Hmmm…
Well I tend to give my time around 1-3 hours a time, but only give myself to the game only a couple to a few days a week. I play other games so when I wish to chill and gather, craft, and enjoy others company via dungeon finder I shall return to the world of Azeroth.
That being said I imagine my time will go up a wee bit when the next expansion comes out, maybe. Might be around 2(3)-5(7) hours a run fer a time. Eh, no rush to max level this time so only time will then on that front.
I think it sort of depends, I sort of see it as a bit of both. Depending on your gameplay style.
I consider myself more of an open world player now, who sometimes dabbles in low keys. I don’t raid anymore. I used to be a progression raider, but those days are long gone since Mists. My guild casually raided Warlords and Legion, then stopped.
I consider myself a casual player but i use the activity/gameplay definition of casual. Time played wise i’m not casual at all
I just don’t follow metas and primarily log in to do unrated pvp/avoid organized group content of more than 5 people like the plague
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Everyone has their own idea of what “casual” means. If you don’t specify a definition, people are just going to use whatever definition they have in mind, and therefore your responses will be all over the board.
Here’s my definition: Casual players don’t do scheduled activities with a pre-set group of people (e.g., raid nights with a guild). That’s a pretty broad definition, and it’s one that I certainly fit into. For most of Shadowlands (and the previous 2 expansions), I’ve done at least 2 mythic dungeons per week. I got KSM on this character in season 2. Aside from keeping up with the mission table, that’s pretty much the only content I’ve done lately. I foresee continuing that pattern in Dragonflight.
I mostly do quests ( [!], quest, [?] ) and occasionally I’ll hit the green button and do a dungeon. My time varies. Some days I’ll play for several hours and others I might not play at all. It depends on what else is going on in that pesky Real World.
I’m casual and I raid and do M+. Not in SL (skipped this whole mess), but definitely going back to AOTC and KSM for DF since I am too busy just catching up with the tertiary goodies of SL currently.
I’ve been working from home since covid hit, so I’m always around if someone pings me for my tanking or healing services.
Casuals are dads who have 5 jobs, 12 wives, and 20 kids and have 0 time to play this game between making sure their wives boyfriends have adequate time to play bloodborne. Blizz really needs to tap into this market of players who want to play but don’t actually want to play the game.
I don’t think everyone who currently plays retail WoW is casual. I’m more curious as to why 10 mil players left and continue to leave.
or have they ventured to Classic WoW.
Also in my opinion casual means you don’t participate in rated content or spend very little time doing it. Like for me I barely do arenas haven’t done any rbgs and hardly touched mythic + and raiding.
Sir that is illegal in all 50 states
and yet all the casual wow players do it. Clearly blizz has much to answer for, forcing these fine gamers to marry so many people and work so many jobs.
I mean you might have a point because actually they’d be trying to play WoW from prison for polygamy lol
I’m semi core at most these days. I do KSM, play lots of alts, farm mogs, go do some +20’s on my mains with my guild.
I prog raided with an old guild back in CN in shadowlands because I actually had time to do it, and that raid was the only one this expansion that actually interested me.
I’m more interested in the story / aesthetic of a raid than actually raiding it, because to be quite honest, raiding is tedious.
Would def. not classify myself as hardcore, that ship has long since sailed. But I do enjoy end game progression and I do enjoy m+
Hardcore is notoriously difficult to define and in reality subjective (to a pet collector, someone who runs +5 keys might seem “hardcore”), but if you want something more objective here’s how I’d define it:
“Hardcore” is a gradient, not an absolute, that scales along with how niche the group content in question is. Cutting edge raiders sit on one extreme end and serial alt levelers, collectors, etc at the other extreme end.
So if you want to know how “hardcore” you are, take your level of participation in group content and try to track down metrics to figure out how common it is in the larger playerbase. Anybody doing keys north of +15 (and I guess in DF, +20) is almost certainly past the middle and closer to the cutting edge raiders, edging up towards the cutting edge raiders with increasing key level.
I’m not sure, I just want to pvp and do world content. I want a gold saucer in wow instead of the lame dark moon fair. I want tons more battlegrounds and epic battlegrounds. I don’t care about raiding or mythic plus but get annoyed that a lot of cosmetical content is locked behind them.
Tbh I would love to see a specific test conducted on the community. Have a single patch that lasts 3 months and have the best gear given to you for free, you’re auto equiped in top BIS. Keep all content open and have no rewards at all. No gear, no cosmetics, no achievements. At the end see which content was done more. I put my money on PvP was done more and most people didn’t touch raiding or mythic plus outside the first month.
By doing this, this will tell Blizzard and the community easily which content is actually fun and that people want to do. People only do raiding and mythic plus not because its fun or for the challenge, but because they want nice shiney rewards.
Honestly I think most “casuals” have KSM, not a very hard feat to achieve.
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