I know you’re not that big of a clown you’re trying to use Clarity as an example, someone who has 10 Mythic SLG kills under his belt and only swapped to Venthyr for the most recent two kills right. Nobody would be that silly?
You think Clarity was allowed to play Venthyr for prog? Are you dreaming?
The covenant system is fine. Swap to what ever you like, maybe you lose a little DPS maybe you don’t, but it’s not a big deal. The only people that realistically should care are top end PVP’ers or top end PVE’ers, and they make up a very small percentage of the population.
Play what ever you like, have fun, enjoy, don’t fret.
So what you’re saying is the people who get most directly punished are totally okay to be frustrated with a system that directly impacts their choice of content and hinders many to being a 1 trick wonder with content.
Right, so those it impacts have every right to be mad.
You didn’t add anything with that comment. I know you think you did, but you didn’t. I quite literally just said that.
Then, by your same warrant, do you think it ultimately so mattered to him or his raid what his covenant was?
Do you think his raid faced a player being crippled by his swapping from Fey Guardians to Venthyr (despite the fastest SLG kill with a Shadow Priest featuring, again, a Venthyr S. Priest)?
It’s not enough to be only a little bad for some people and fine for everyone else (which itself is a faulty assumption, by the way). Who is it good for? Who is going to get a lot of value out of covenants being a locked-in choice, how many are there of this group, and will they get significantly less value if covenants were a fluid, easily-changeable choice?
For prog? Undoubtedly and if you don’t understand this or agree you have no realistic idea of what mythic raiding is like.
They aren’t.
They are.
This.
What is the depth of enjoyment gained or lost, on average, to each member of the affected group, and how big is either group?
I suspect Ripcord would be the favored option even if we were to discount either half of those criteria. Considering both, it’s almost entirely in favor of freeing up Covenant choice.
I’m not sure if I should congratulate you or feel pity that you felt the need to stalk me.
I know exactly why I chose Venthyr on my Shaman, much like I know why I use Doomwinds more than my Witch Doctor Bones.
I have 5 60s. But close.
“The best”? Night Fae is best for Enhance so no.
Last I checked when I hit 60 on my DH Bastion was best for Veng so no.
Pally is Necrolord so obviously no.
Druid is pure coincidence because I like having Night Fae alts to spam the mission table with as trappers are still pretty busted.
So imagine that, coincidences that some of my covenants for some of the specs of the classes. But of course your bias and ignorance will discount that because you can’t possibly be wrong.
those pesky crazy coincidences eh?
You’re hyper-focusing on whether or not we will kill a boss with suboptimal covenant choices. It’s not that simple. You might very well still kill a boss with all 20 people having less viable covenant choices, but it would be significantly harder and severely restrict how your guild can approach the boss and therefore lead to a more miserable experience. For example, we had 3 Hunters for Stone Legion Generals and we’re all Night Fae. If we weren’t Night Fae the boss would be brutal. We would struggle to meet priority add burst requirements.
Besides, the bigger issue is that it’s very restricting when you think about multiple areas of content. I like to do a lot of battlegrounds and Wild Spirits largely sucks for PvP. I would love to try out Venthyr BM PvP since I hear it’s a blast, but I can’t because my raid depends on me being Night Fae. It’s a really crappy situation that exists for no real reason.
How often can you change a talent?
How often can you change a covenant?
I rest my case.
Yeah, just like if I level my DK it will be Necrolord.
Slappy hands is by far the funnest ability they have, why wouldn’t I choose it?
I’m not going to not choose something I like just because you or someone else might get the wrong impression.
To echo this, any hunter that showed up to prog for SLG without Wild Spirits should basically be immediately benched. Wild Spirits before the nerf was almost essential, I’d be amazed if there was a single guild in the first 400 kills that didn’t have at least 3.
Just like any of the classes that didn’t fill the meta either. Better let people swap those aswell because it affects people killing the 2nd last boss on the hardest difficulty for 400 kills.
Yes obviously because mythic guilds have a bench.
Even Clarity who Rena tried to use a gotcha got benched for his guilds first SLG kill, their rekill and only was allowed in on their third kill.
I know right, might as well just make it a lobby style game aye. Have players choose their classes and specs when they queue for the encounter.
Would solve all of these problems right.
yeah man that’s what we want when we ask for the ripcord to be pulled you got us haha.
great job dude keep it up.
Freeing up covenant choices =/=
If we were to consider the farthest extreme of Covenant choices as a 4-option talent row, would that be so bad?
It wouldn’t be my preference, but it’d seem better than what we have now.
If we were to consider it a lateral progression rep-grind to unlock those choices, that’d be potentially more grindy, unless there were also account-bound unlocks to at least facilitate that across alts, but okay, also preferred over the current situation.
The forking soulbind interface removed in favor of just picking up to a given number each of Potency, Endurance, and Finesse nodes, to some capped amount of NPC-specific nodes vs. Conduits? Also preferable, honestly.
And heck, maybe I could finally skip dealing with Condemn bugs altogether if I wasn’t locked into that covenant just for Anima Cages and Loyal Stoneborns…
How about this: if we know locked-in choices can be problematic, let’s not add more of them in the form of borrowed power.