I keep seeing massive amounts of likes/supportive comments on “pull the ripcord posts” but I also see a fair few people saying “you don’t speak for everyone not everyone wants the ripcord pulled”. To me its really just a no brainer the ripcord should’ve been pulled ages ago and while I get why we should’ve at least tried it without pulling it, it still hasn’t gone very well especially now with news of covenant specific legendries (please lord no) and even more ability changes I think it would now as good a time as any to do it.
So my question is just, if you don’t want the ripcord to be pulled, (Making covenent class/generic abilities talents, allowing free swapping, can farm renown/anima for any covenent etc) why?
Also I won’t really take “but it makes it a meaningful choice” as an answer because a lot of streamers/youtubers have already tackled that whole thing and basically just saying something is a meaningful choice doesn’t make it one, and a choice that can easily be changed can still be a meaningful choice like our talents. It wasn’t a meaningful choice anyway the second they made covenants have player power, they should’ve kept the covenant choice just aesthetic/armor if they wanted it to be like it is now.
And yes I do know that Ion lied and there actually is no ripcord to pull, which is a whole other thing in of itself, but this is hypothetically if there was a way to pull one.
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i like the atmosphere. dont mind borrowed power.
diversity is good. everyone chasing the same cloned BIS is boring.
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We are so buried in weird, arbitrary systems at this point, what even is the ripcord?
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But wouldn’t it be MORE diversity if classes werent shoe horned into a certain covenant? Its something like 90% of hunters are Night Fae because its just so good for Hunters. What diversity is there when the VAST majority of classes ALL go the same covenant because that one is just better than the others?
If they took away the powers from covenants then we could actually have diversity and Ardenweald might not be 18 hunters and 2 druids standing around…
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well i meant in raids and other group activities. i dont really care what people do when they solo.
carbon-copy bis spreadheet simmed checkmark playstyle is … more of a job than a means of entertainment.
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Sure, but the current system encourages that even more. Covenant abilities are simmed out and the VAST majority of people go the class that their Icy veins/WoWhead guide tells them to go…this isn’t diversity OR choice.
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Do NOT pull the ripcord else that’s one less thing GD has to complain about.
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You can’t just run around and pull someone’s ripcord.
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It’s not that I don’t want it pulled, it’s just that I know it’s not going to be so people making posts like it is still a possibility are silly.
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The funny thing is , most people don’t realize that all the nerfs Blizz did to try to get the covenants close and balanced is what created all of the metas.
If they would of separated say the covenant class abilities from the covenants , players could of picked the covenant look they wanted and picked the ability for the content they wanted to do and all it would of taken to make any of the class abilities to work with any covenant would of been a conduit.
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exactly, this is what the ripcord is…
give yourselves 500 rows of new talents. idc. i wanted the act of switching covenants to be an actual barrier. since it was presented as an “rpg” choice.
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That is literally one of the reasons it is a meaningful choice though lol.
It’s like when you choose your class, do you want to play a class that deals damage through DoTs or one that has big slow casts for large damage? Do you want to have good ST or better AoE?
Do you want more damage or more utility?
Remove that choice and you remove a lot of the meaning.
Players have simply gotten used to having such large amounts of accessibility and removal of choices that they simply don’t know how to cope when forced to make a decision anymore.
All it really shows is people need to understand they can’t just have everything and that there is a cost involved to the choices they make.
And talents are not a good example of a “meaningful choice”. The choice is meaningless because if I choose the “wrong one” I can use a tome and instantly swap it back or just go to a rest area.
You are mistaking having multiple gameplay options for having choice, it’s not the same.
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I would actually be good with making switching covenants harder if they took the abilities away. Because then your not choosing your covenant because a certain ability is best, your choosing it cause you want to be that covenant.
And yes, before you say that YOU didn’t choose your covenant based on its ability, ALOT of people do, as evidenced by data harvesting.
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To be fair they would just change the argument from not being able to change covenant abilities to “I have to change covenant abilities every boss fight” or something else ridiculous.
Which they would continue to do with swappable abilities.
The problem is not the system, the problem is the balance, and players being unable to think for themselves outside of “I wonder what wowhead says my best covenant is”.
Give a man a fish and feed them for the day, teach a man to fish and feed them for their life.
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i got into arguments over this until me and some others figured out we were saying the same thing. i do not CARE about the ability. i a WQ/lfr hero. if they outright removed my night fae ability on this monk it likely would take me a while to notice, tbh. i am only concerned about the rpg choice. it wasn’t sold to us as a combat choice. that crap doesn’t interest me. no offense, you no lifers can do whatever you’d like with abilities and crap because it effects yall a lot more than it does me.
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OP I’m pro ripcord but did you need to make 2 threads on the same topic ?
Maybe it’s actually a Preheat alt 
If so, then yes. Yes they did.
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aren’t we all preheat alts? 
On the otherside of this coin they removed meaningful choice because if I want to perform the best I can - in almost every case there is only 1 option, no choice at all.
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