Ok, who still DOESN'T want the ripcord pulled and why?

So, of moderate to leading popularity? Woe be we.

I’m pretty sure he’s talking about how they were left to be ridiculously OP for 3 tiers in a row.

1 Like

This is such a bad and out of touch response I was just going to ignore it but it sums up pretty clearly the disconnect pretty well of the forums vs people who actually play the game.

2 Likes

I stopped posting here and actually forgot these forum dwellers exist. How disconnected they are from what actually happens in game is astounding.

I don’t think I’m looking to increase the ol’ blood pressure so I think it’s time for me to dip lmao

1 Like

Yeah…over the original 300 posts of the thread.

So they choose an ability based on something other than damage/performance. Which means there are other metrics by which a choice can be made.

It does if they are aggressively promoting something.
The issue isn’t people picking what they do based off a post. The issue is people picking what they did because they saw “this is best” and then going “I DON’T HAVE A CHOICE THIS IS STUPID. CHANGE IT NOW!!!”

I don’t have any issue with people advocating for changes that they understand, but people advocating for something they don’t understand irks me.

To use your example, someone shouldn’t be expressing their opinion on fixing a car engine if they don’t understand it. So why should that change in regards to a system or mechanic.
As I said before it’s exactly what all of Preheat’s threads are.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask that question if someone is randomly advocating against or for that CPU without reason.
The internet is full of free information put up by everyday average people, you don’t just read something on Wikipedia and then spread that word vehemently as gospel after a 5s read.

1 Like

Ok Haavi you’re using way too many words to say nothing again. Time to pump the breaks.

If they don’t want to be handicapped they are right, they don’t have a choice. But congratulations you really manage to laser focus on the hyper popular enhancement spec. There are so many dozens of active enhancement shamans who are really happy you’re out here looking out for them.

Don’t worry guys, don’t bother looking at:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EysHF0VW8AAQmWO?format=jpg&name=medium

Enhancement shaman kind of have some semblance of choice so it’s going to be A-OKAY!

You’re so unintentionally hilarious it makes me sides hurt.

1 Like

Pulling a ripcord after hitting the ground is useless.

I chose a covenant for my main based on the abilities. It’s not the meta, but it’s not that much less (I just have to do different builds), but I don’t like any of the transmogs - just the abilities. I really like the Maldraxxus plate transmogs though. I have this issue on a few classes.

I don’t know if I would pull the ripcord completely, but I do think we should be able to use any mount and also be able to purchase some set pieces for other covenants. Or if they could let you have a different covenant for each spec. I barely play my monk because the suggestion was basically to take a mediocre covenant if you want to do both MW and WW.

They will likely pull the “ripcord” on covenants, transmogs, etc well after the expansion is over and a new one is out.

It’s almost as if I’ve used this character for the forums for years /gasp

@Ddzz his main is a DH on Barthilas and brother, you’re not going to believe what Covenant he is.

It’s truly the most wild thing!!! i can’t believe it im shaking right now!!!

Haavi the fact I can say this and everyone who actually plays this game knows exactly what covenant your Havoc DH is, obviously doesn’t raise any red flags? Do DHs even have 4 options to choose from?

2 Likes

What diversity? All the serious players are the same covenant/soulbind for max performance.

1 Like

well if is they want the best they dont realy have a choice, thats why we want a “free” cove swap to be added

why don’t they ever have an answer when you mention to them that maybe wanting to swap has nothing to do with wanting to be the best? like, I’m already the best covenant and I still want to swap because I want to enjoy more of the game (that is currently exhaustingly boring because of arbitrary restrictions and design decisions that only serve to slow you down).

Is there a better best they think I want to swap to or something? Or maybe I just wanna have… fun? But that’s not allowed either, because they think I consider the choice to pick the BIS one was meaningful?

Like, it doesn’t make any sense. Picking Night Fae means literally 0 to me. Absolutely nothing. I do not care about Night Fae at all. Why are you telling me it means something lmao

1 Like

no you are the 1% you don’t play for fun you only play to be the best fun is a illusion okay ???

1 Like

Handicapped… right… like, being the top S. Priest parse only in SLG, 2nd in some other fights, merely making it to the top 10 parses worldwide on Denathrius or in M+.; like being relegated to the world’s third highest IO BM Hunter; like being relegated to the second and eighth highest Arcane (at a far smaller gap than having chosen to play Arcane at all, at best #316, atm); like being relegated to the third highest IO Havoc, 2nd best Assassination rogue, or 3rd best for another covenant, 10th for yet another), 7th for Demo, 4th best in the world for Destro, etc., etc.

Yes, there are some seriously undertuned or under-applicable Covenants choices for certain specs (all but NF for Boomie, Affliction, and Feral; all but Kyrian for Windwalker; Vengeance, Necrolord for Havoc and any Hunter or Paladin spec; Night Fae for any Monk spec; Necrolord for any Priest, etc.) but the difference itself isn’t crippling as most make it out to be. Each played to its highest degree, your choice of covenant will more often than not make far less of a difference than one’s spec or even some few ilvl.

Should the gaps be tightened? Yes, absolutely. But the current % usage is not indicative of that actual gap, else you wouldn’t see every covenant in the top 10 parses for certain specs that are 95+% all one Covenant.

:: To be clear, I’d prefer the ripcord be pulled. I just wish people look at the actual data from those pushing Covenants to their full potential, instead of arguing solely by popularity or conflating player preference solely with theoretical performance when there are clearly other factors at play.

1 Like

Incorrect.

Considering I play Vengeance mostly, good job?

I play the Hunt because it’s enjoyable. A long range nuke that resets in Torghast on kill.

But I mean, again. Good job incorrectly stalking my account twice.

Could clear this up by just getting on what your main is. And your logs in raid are on havoc so?

1 Like

yeah diversity, that is why there is CLEAR winners and losers by miles and we are forced to take certain covenants.

1 Like

No, this is the guy I post on on the forums. This has been my main character since TBC after multiple race changes and server swaps.
This is the character I associate with.

If you want to the leg work on this witch hunter you have constructed then that is on you.

Amazing I’ve done like 3 alt runs and played Havoc, what incredible powers of deduction. It’s almost like out of a potential 30 players in a raid, you only need 2 tanks and the majority are dps.

1 Like

Oh check that out, you do play an enhancement shaman. Venthyr good choice sir.

Do you know why enhancement shamans pick Venthyr?

Now that i put more effort into it, I’m impressed. 3/4 of your 60’s have “the best” covenant, your warrior though not looking crash hot mate.

1 Like

So their totems have friends at the ember court?