To everyone saying there aren’t enough OCE players for TBC, remember WOTLK is the starting point for so many players.
Not everyone liked TBC or Classic, or they tried it and it wasn’t for them.
WOTLK will have so many players returning and a fresh start is far more appealing than joining a mega server where multiple players have over 150k gold.
Blizzard, Please open one (1) OCE server for fresh start.
Anyone that is justifying no Oceanic server because of SOM as a complete space cadet. There is no correlation between an expansion people have waited a decade for, waiting through TBC and Classic, versus replaying classic AGAIN with changes that don’t even interest them.
If Blizzard had at least warned us months ago when they advertised Fresh that there would be no Oceanic- or at least tell us to have contingency plans incase, then It would allow us to prepare to play on a US server or start on one of the already designated servers albeit riddles with RMT.
Stop being naive, even if by Ulduar or whatever that the population did decline, they said they would open up server transfers anyway.
While having an OCE realm would be nice, I had no issuing playing on a west coast US realm for SoM ( 160ms ping)
Initially I was on Lionheart (SoM OCE PVE) but it population died very fast. I did considered rolling on Swamp of Sorrow (SoM OCE PVP) because it had better population but I really hate PVP realms
Anyway alot of OCE players move to the US realm and was lucky to find a guild comprised of many OCE players so doing dungeons was possible during normal hours. Also many days I play very late or very early (shift worker) and as this was US peak times also was able to run many dungeons.
So not entirely doom and gloom if we’re force to all roll on a west coast US realm.
EDIT: Even if Blizzard added 1 OCE realm it would be a PVP realm, and in that case I would roll on a US realm rather than PVP realm.
I’m not really invested in the whole fresh server thing but always hilarious to watch wow players claim 200 ping is “insignificant” when in every other game it’s “bro I’m lagging so badly I’m AT 200 ping, how am I supposed to play this.”
200 ping is definitely playable, but feels and plays pretty bad, particularly on melee, particularly in PvP. During the safety dance in Naxx you have to run into the next segment as it’s exploding to not die as one example. I think it’s a non-starter nowadays with how optimised the average mmo player is at baseline.
It’s worse for people on the west coast of Australia. Typical ping for us when playing on a US server is about 300ms. Trust me, you just can’t interrupt. At all. And dps is extremely munted. And you can’t play a healer, for fear of coming out of a lag spike with half your party dead. And, oh yeah, the Safety Dance in Naxx is a complete nightmare. Because your ping isn’t consistent. It ramps up and down, making it near impossible to judge when you should move.
Blizzard please don’t listen to the 3 people requesting OCE, there is zero demand for this. We don’t have the population for it
YES PLEASE
Oce fresh please, just 1 server would do
idk what to say. It wasn’t noticeable when I was in S. Korea 18 years ago, but I was running on decent hardware, and obviously they have some of the best Internet infrastructure available. Latency itself isn’t everything, I suppose.
It’s “hilarious” that people like you (actually you) state this sort of thing about a game where there is a literal 1500ms GCD on most everything. 
Actual braindead comment. Ping impacts your ability to react to mechanics, also in wrath most interrupts are off the GCD.
Found the brain dead player that can’t count higher than 3
Just a comment from my personal experience. It’s not like there was noticeable lag on my client. The server I was playing on was in Chicago, and most of my guildies were in Texas, while I was in S. Korea.
I played on both US and Korean servers. On Korean servers I had between 0-10 ping. On US servers it was more like 300… I didn’t have any issues, and was able to clear all heroic 25 man content in Wrath.
What an “actual braindead comment” is is pretending that a tenth of a second makes a huge difference on something you have several seconds to react to.
Of course it is no major impact for most of the game, but with that said we pay the same (actually slightly more) subscription fee as everyone else to get an objectively worse service offering.
Oceanic didn’t get the sort of merges it needed to be able to have a fresh server. We are all med and at best high pop throughout the expansion, the fresh server will die if they make one for OCE and the existing OCE servers need more players.
Well that sucks. 
To be sure, I’m not trying to disparage OCE players. I hope a good solution that works out well is found.
Also, according to xe.com, it’s actually less than the US or Canada. If you’re paying $19.95/month AUD. That’s only USD $13.73, or CAD $17.89 — so a little less than USD $15.00 or CAD $18.00.
Coming out of lurker mode to add my +1 for fresh OCE server(s)
I think, sadly, many people who have the desire for fresh start don’t hang out on the forums all day (or at all) and their opinions will not be heard.
+1 to this.
People can’t even comment on here without a sub
Exchange rates fluctuate of course, also we could bring cost of living, tax rates etc into it but I’m not here for an economic debate. My comment was around the fact that Blizz raised the Australian (perhaps all of OCE?) sub fee a while ago due to how strong our dollar is against the US - that dollar’s purchasing power didn’t change overnight for us though.
Sounds like a good thing if people aren’t playing the game then their opinion doesn’t matter " But I’m coming back for WoTLK!!!111 " and they will quit 2 months in when their 9 wives, 34 jobs and 78 children stop them from playing for more than 2 micro seconds a week just like they did in TBC and Vanilla