History doesn’t apply to the things I like!
Yes very good, maybe later this afternoon I can bake a cake using hitler’s downfall to inform my tiramisu recipe and we can have tea together. Because that’s basically the comparisons you’re drawing with these historical trends.
You’re embarassing yourself by evidently not having read this thread and just latching onto one sentence without any context.
If you wanted to address or extrapolate any of the points others have already raised, feel free to do so.
You’re embarassing yourself by evidently not having read this thread and just latching onto one sentence without any context.
Scroll through the thread, I’ve literally been here since the beginning pointing people like you to the naughty corner.
Yes, that summarises it. You’ve been in this thread with an agenda to target anybody who disagrees with the thing you like - not to have a discussion.
Excuse me.
If you wanted to address or extrapolate any of the points others have already raised, feel free to do so.
You’re just rehashing the same points people have already made in this thread, and once again I’m here to remind you that they’re non-sensical.
I am one of those who would appreciate an oceanic fresh server. I don’t really care if it becomes not viable after three months. I know this is a real possibility.
My old retail guild would like to play fresh - and only until December when they are going back to retail.
I like levelling on new servers and meeting new people.
The people I know who want to roll fresh mainly want a fresh economy and to be free of endless boosting and GDKP ads - which will start in about week 4 on old servers because of the ability to do both 10 and 25 raids and the relative easiness of NAXX.
I don’t view classic as a forever commitment. Three months of a game is quite long for most games. If at the end of three months the server proved non-viable it’s no great tragedy - I can go to retail, transfer my toon or go back to my old classic server that has four toons I could main with fully levelled professions.
And if there is no oceanic fresh server I can play other games, keep playing on my current server, have a break, not read forums for three months, whatever - it’s no great tragedy worth pages of verbal diarrhoea - I just am expressing what I’d like.
I hope those who play enjoy wrath classic.
You’re delusional if you think GDKP’s won’t start on fresh servers the second raids open up, The only way you would get no GDKP’s on fresh is if they opened up fresh servers the second Northrend opened up but that will never happen as people want the pre patch event + time to level up and get ready for Northrend.
You have to remember you get almost 4 weeks of pre patch + 2 weeks of farming before raids open no matter what happens this is a 15 year old game people know how to make money let alone the fact just because it is fresh people will still sell gold and people will still swipe.
GDKPs are inevitable even on fresh.
I just want a clean leveling experience with lots of people as I have no chars on US side
Took the words right from my keyboard.
I think it is unlikely.
Between levelling 0-70, levelling a couple of professions, levelling cooking, fishing and first aid where necessary, dealing with scourge invasions, having to save for dual spec and cold weather flying and fast flying mount there won’t be a lot of gold. Sure there might be 1 or 2 guilds doing GDKP - but not 40 guilds advertising in week 4.
I should call you some term that is derogatory about your psychological health to return the favour - but I think name calling is unnecessary.
there will be more GDKPs going on fresh compared to old servers - The easiest form of income is setting up a GDKP, It requires minimal effort and no matter how poorly manage it or ridiculous cuts you set people will still come.
Examples
KVX, CBA and ES runs on Arugal have large admin fees as well as admins double dipping a cut and admin cut yet people still go
Missyn was caught double dipping splits and not paying for items all while having TK/SSC go for 6 hours when BT/Hyjal was out and yet those runs are still popular.
Horde side GDKP are in a whole other galaxy one week before pre patch people are setting up GDKPs with min bids of 500 items , 750 tier and 1000g weapons / necks in Kara or 3k per item for Hyjal Tier and 6k for Catas edge , ToC or BoW
The point is no one cares and people are lazy and will always take the easiest path. If they can set up a GDKP not buy anything but dock others for doing the same while making 4-5k they will do it.
there will be more GDKPs going on fresh compared to old servers - The easiest form of income is setting up a GDKP, It requires minimal effort and no matter how poorly manage it or ridiculous cuts you set people will still come.
Even if by some miracle your hypothetical is correct, you at least have people on a more equal playing field. No one is going to be able to out-bid XxSweatlord69xX for an item if they’ve already saved up 500 billion gold from sweating it up during TBC. New players will essentially be pigeon holed into RMT in order to remain competitive.
Yes it won’t be as egregious compared to old servers but it will still be bad as gold making in wrath is very easy with or without professions and the new badges / bags you get from quests or being a tank and healer for heroics will make things much worse let alone how popular RMT is.
But my point still stands anyone that says they want to play on fresh servers because there won’t be RMT or GDKP’s hasn’t been playing this game for the past 15 years.
players on fresh servers will still feel like theyre behind and be shoehorned into RMT.
I’d argue SoM brings more to the table than Fresh does.
Fresh offers the exact same content at the exact same time, the only thing it really offers is the up to 1 month of heavy leveling population and a clean economy that will be ruined in 1-2months.
SoM offered an alternative interation of the game to what the progressive servers had and with changes to how it was originally. Yes they likely timed it a bit wrong but arguably it had a whole lot more going for it than Fresh does.
You are forgetting wrath isn’t even released yet so fresh offers a whole new expansion and all the changes along with wrath.
SoM had barely enough changes for the majority to consider playing after just slogging through classic and with TBC coming along
This is irrelevant, WotLK and WotLK fresh are releasing at the same time. The only thing fresh brings over the progression server is what I stated above.
Bros are really still in this thread fighting with all their might to make sure OCE does NOT have a fresh WOTLK server. Go outside.
Yes, SoM has more changes over the original version of Classic than fresh Wrath. But the timing is the most important reason why I’m saying they aren’t comparable.
If SoM servers had released alongside the original Classic servers, the comparison would be apt. But they released months after the original Classic, while TBCC was running concurrently and was still fairly new. The audiences for both at their respective release times are very different.
Essentially, I think that even though SoM and Wrath fresh are both examples of a split community/server situation, the timing of their respective releases is such a significant differing factor as to make the comparison extremely flawed at best.
Who cares if it’s ruined after 1-2 months, those first 1-2 months of fresh are glorious.
What happened for you to be so against others wanting to enjoy wrath
Bros are really still in this thread fighting with all their might to make sure OCE does NOT have a fresh WOTLK server. Go outside.
Yeah but they’re bumping the thread and getting it more attention so their stupidity is kind of working out to our advantage.