It’s worse, PI lost value from the nerf, unholy the better PI target now
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Please recheck the math before sending these changes.
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Ah yes, the “Blizzard wants people to not play a class/spec for a while” move. I don’t understand why this is happening if it is not coming with the further changes that are coming to Dark Ranger. Especially when the vast majority are still progging through Heroic and Mythic. BM is already usually given the role of “mechanic monkey” because their DPS is relatively easier to execute while doing mechanics, but now it just serves them to permanently be a mechanics monkey, or just change roles entirely depending on what your group requires.
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When they first did the huge nerf to BM AoE, and left Basilisk Collar untouched, they nerfed like 8 different abilities.
Why is it when they then nerf BC, they only buff 2 things back to compensate and not even back to where they used to be?
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*PI is still relatively same % value, just since our dmg went down it translates to less raw dmg.
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I’ve barely touched M+ yet this season because I hate feeling like a burden to my group. At least I could pump in the raid. And now they are taking that from us too?
Well my warlock is equally geared, so maybe its time to make that my main 
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Wait, is BM actually good for delves? I’ve been doing mine as MM already. BM seemed so under powered in delves
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Everything is fine in delves as long as you have a pulse.
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BM with a turtle and packleader with healer brann and tier 8 are super fun.
This was devastating news to wake up to.
I genuinely don’t know what the hell Blizzard is thinking, or doing. If you don’t know how to balance or fix a spec, reach out to community leaders and guide writers and people who play and love the spec and use their feedback and ideas. I spend quite a bit of time lurking in the hunter discord and there is so much discussion about possible solutions and changes that could have worked without committing this complete and utter annihilation of the spec for no valid reason. Instead, Blizzard just grab a hammer and nuke the hell out of it while other classes and specs continue to perform absurdly well in comparison (and in fact are buffed). Not only that, but we’re a couple weeks into content now and a lot of us have used our Sparks and spent a lot of gold on very expensive materials to craft gear for our preferred spec, only to now to have to spend even more gold re-crafting things, or play with gear that is not optimal until we get what we need from keys/raid/the Vault. Not at all ideal, and in fact, very disrespectful of players’ time and resources. But then again, that is something that Blizzard has struggled with in recent times, so perhaps it shouldn’t be surprising. It is, however, very disappointing.
Removing BM’s only actual use in the current content (ST), whilst also keeping us weak in AOE despite the “buffs” is utterly ludicrous and unacceptable and completely out of touch. So many BM players were struggling to get invited to content and felt bad about playing the spec we love because we would be disadvantaging our friends and key and raid groups, and were hoping for changes that would at least bring us in line with some other specs. And yet, we get this. Essentially reduced to, what, being a delve/open world spec only? How is this OK? This is not something that is OK to do to any spec, let alone one that already had very obvious and extreme issues (i.e. its AOE) and was crying out for attention and rectification.
As someone who’s played BM for multiple expansions in a row and loves the spec for its flavour and the freedom it gives in its playstyle, this is supremely disappointing and I hope that these changes are reverted/cancelled or at least adjusted so BM is not completely disabled and garbage-tier going forward.
Please, Blizzard, pull your finger out and stop showing blatant favouritism towards certain classes/specs whilst showing complete ignorance/disdain/disregard for others. Listen to the people’s feedback and act on it. What you’ve done is atrocious. Fix it.
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Now that we got that out of the way, let’s discuss how we can make BM its own class. I wonder if the devs are picking up my ingenious suggestion.
Q: Why are you nerfing Beastmaster Hunters to the ground?
A: Umm, because we’d rather you didn’t play Beastmaster.
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This is no bueno Blizzard.
I haven’t posted a Forum comment in ages, but this is just an egregious change. BM Hunter has just one niche, and now it’s being nerfed to the bottom ?!? Please rethink this change.
Blizzard please don’t cause the heartache of “waiting for more data” after the change when it’s obviously not right. The community has run the math, it’s a large nerf to ST and an inconsequential buff to AOE. Revert it now and keep cooking! Let’s keep the overall positive vibes of War Within going!
Thank you.
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Blizzard fix aoe correctly or just leave it alone.
thanks
that is all for now
I think it’s a poor design choice, and it deserves a Dev explanation into the logic behind it.
This will push raiders into a single ranged spec and remove choice, due to some of the benefits running a pet offered.
We have to question Blizzard’s intent and logic given what the numbers are ‘currently’ showing, as on the surface, none of this makes any sense …
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Not until they fix buggy pet damage for Zek’vir ??. Garbage there too.
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Common blizz Say sometin!!
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The worse this gets, the more I want to just unsub.
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I don’t think anyone is saying anything friday night
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Small indie company, don’t expect to hear anything from them. Just look at how Tuesday weekly maintenance goes, 2 hour maintenance gets pushed back 6 hours or more.
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I feel for my hunter brothers out there. Finally was happy 3 weeks into tier with where i stood stats, gear and comfort in raiding with my BM hunter to now having to get regeared and stated to be viable in certain situations in a spec i am not happy playing as much and will have to work on and re-learn fights and timings.
I always knew that BM struggled with aoe dmg and i expected some of the changes of the 11.0.5 to bring us up a little but BM niche had always been single target on the move dps.
Now we dont even have that… actually making us horribly low and not actually fixing any problems at the core… 11.0.5 cannot come fast enough and i am not sure thay will even be anywhere near enough to make BM viable in any situation.
A lot of new gear to aquire…
3+ weeks of time and resources… gold, time and Sparks.
As a hunter this is upsetting… is blizzard going to reimburse any of this…nope.
Now a few weeks away from being able to prog and help my raid team again while they continue to down bosses.
Maybe i will take a break and come back after i see the numbers of 11.0.5 and where we stand. Not sure i have the heart to do it all again and be behind for weeks now.
My honest wish is blizz re examines this stupid change and comes up with a better solution to a very unique … very specific … sotuation that only a small percentage of people it has affected.
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