That would appear to be so. I’d suggest getting one of the easier ones like Crucible of Flame and checking it out.
You have to do the essence grind the original way at least once, for each respective essence. Every time after alts can use the currency to buy rank 3 instead.
I don’t know if you lied to us Blizzard or you just didn’t mention it so we will find by ourselves after this update: ESSENCES ARE NOT ACCOUNT-BOUND, THEY ARE FACTION AND SERVER LOCKED.
God dammit Blizzard, if you don’t want to do something just don’t do it if you are going to do half assed trash, if I did something like this at my job I would be fired and people would eat me alive at customer support.
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Like the fact you can get them from random bgs or M+, or arena. Clearly time gated content that you can only do once a week right?
Yes time gating sucks, and yes there is an over abundance of it these past years. But saying this is driven off time gating is clutching a bit friend.
But didnt they say in the original post that the ones fron najatar and mechagon were going to be available for purchase regardless of if you had earned rank 3? maybe i misread.
so they removed the echoes from wq’s as hotfix? wtf do we do now save them?
my resto druid ran the Uldum assault and dailies and didn’t get any Echoes. Did get 50 of them earlier today after WQ in Storm’s Wake. Had previously logged in my main with a bunch of rank 3 essences. Pretty bummed.
Just a heads up but Kaivax isn’t the one in charge of implementing all these changes in game.
How about we all take a second before venomously attacking them directly, they are just the messenger.
And then you wonder why Blizzard won’t talk to us? If we want open communication between players and developers we need to drop the toxicity and blame and discuss things civilly.
You would walk into a bar if you knew every time you entered the whole place would start hurling insults? Of course you wouldn’t, you would drink at home or someplace else.
This place is no different, if every time a blue steps into the forums they get attacked they are never going to be here by choice, they will do the minimum they are required to do and leave it at that.
Or communicate through locked threads or similar means of one way comversation so that they don’t have to deal with the consequences.
Who implied that? It isn’t unreasonable to want to get essences while grinding out levels for your cloak on alts. I don’t expect all of them to be on a heroic/mythic level of play. I only have enough time to do that on my main (if at all).
Theoretically if I wanted to do the “bare minimum” as you put it for 12 characters I would probably struggle to get a one essence in a single week on half (or less) of them even if I no lifed it. And I wouldn’t have time for anything else like transmog/mount runs.
People have fun playing alts. I haven’t even done any bgs/mythics/heroic raids on my main. Expecting one to do all that for a single alt is ridiculous. Especially considering the time consuming nature of these activities (especially visions).
This final upgrade to rank 15 is going to take 4 runs at roughly 30 mins a piece. Thats 2 hours on a tight schedule for someone who works 40 hours a week. Time isn’t infinite. Maybe for you it is, not sure.
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Can someone clarify?
The first character I logged in after weekly maintainance was this druid who had r3 essences and opened weekly m+ chest
I received no currency.
I shouldve had logged in to another character with r 3 essences then went back to this druid and opened chest?
Given normal Blizzard testing, it makes sense that so much doesn’t work haha.
Yes, but Blizzard are azzholes and instead of a simple pop up announcement ingame the week before the feature goes live, they choose to make a passing comment on a subsection of a forum.
Negligent amoebas is too generous a term for what this expansion’s features have turned out to be.
I’ll also say it’s pretty laughable that 240 echoes come from a +12 mythic key while the weekly assaults in all their braindead capacity give 375 total and it takes 500 for a single rank 3 essence.
To hell with this expansion, and not looking forward to more of this garbage in Shadowlands.
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I think I may have screwed up? 
Logged into my Alliance alt first today, which mostly has blue essences. Was the last toon I was running some bgs with last night, so that’s where the landing page took me.
Logged over to my Horde main (he has all the good stuff/rank 3’s/rank 4’s), and received “Echoes of Nyalotha” currency…
Does this mean the system “registered” my Alliance alt as my main?? Please no… what did I do 
Any way to “reset” this choice of what the system sees as your “main”?
WoW’s continued refusal to make many aspects of the content shared between characters is long outdated in the MMO world. The essence and cloak system, and all of its related content, is boring and tedious, to the point where I no longer have much of a desire to log on. For this reason, Shadowlands is the first XP I have not pre-purchased in a long time.
A better solution would have been to make Heart power level, Heart essences and Cloak ranks account-bound, so that as soon as you earn one, it can be used on ALL of your characters, free of any restrictions. In addition, the cloak should be granted to all other 120’s on your account, without having to do the cloak unlock and obtain on each alt. This way, if I decided I wanted to play as one of my other 120s, their cloak, Heart and Essences would already be good to go, and I wouldn’t have to grind all of that over again PLUS grinding gear.
This Ny’alotha “catch up” system they are putting in now is too little and very much too late. It simply makes that same tedious, boring grind marginally less so.
I hope we can discard concerns about “alts” and “mains”.
Before the game will begin awarding any character Echoes of Ny’alotha, you want to first log into a character (or characters) who have Rank 3 Essences. That’s it.
Once you’ve logged into a character who has a Rank 3 Essence, all of your other characters (that are eligible) will begin seeing Echoes as rewards.
Thus, if you have two characters who have different Rank 3 Essences, you’ll want to log into both of them first, each unlocking the Echoes for the other.
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Top. Men.
Way to go, triple A gaming company. The route this development team is going you have to believe there is an internal competition to find every way possible to screw up a winning strategy.
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Knowing this will information now is great, however getting the response of “tough luck that you didn’t instinctively log on to all of your characters to link them together so that they all receive this currency” is pretty terrible from a
Customer service point of view.
I was excited about this new way of catching up alts because it still felt like progression but this definitely have put a sour taste in my mouth.
If mistakes are made it’s acceptable, but at least provide legitimate solutions to those that it impacted.
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All you needed to do to avoid this confusion was to include this information in yesterday’s post explaining how this system would work.
That’s it.
The single most crucial bit of information you could provide to players about this, which is what limits or provides the system/currency to players’ alts, and you neglected to mention it. Or downright didn’t even know yourselves – I guess we’ll never know. The fact that it took almost an hour after the system was live for you to mention this, and then tweet it and post about it and act like it was players’ faults for not know how a brand newly implemented system was supposed to work … that just screams of you not knowing yourselves.
Once again, your communication to your player base is sorely lacking. At this point you can’t wonder why your players are losing faith in the company’s ability to put out a solid quality product like Blizzard pre-2008. You know you should be doing something to restore echoes to players who didn’t know about the ‘catch’ to the system – even if it means you blanket award hundreds of echoes to every player. What could it possibly hurt, that your actions today haven’t already hurt?
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Still don’t understand why havent you nerfed the amount needed for eternal palace essences.
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