I Played in the original game, and the Horde certainly did pvp. The Horde lost a lot because the Alliance actually played the game and at least 60% of the time on my then server, played better than horde. It really wasn’t that lopsided. We now seem to have people who started in Retail (just my hunch from their behavior) who care less about the game, don’t know how to play it and don’t want to learn, and just want the ring from rep.
They use exploits (Hold the Druids) <also a Vode of Conduct Violation) to (in their opinion) gain rep faster and don’t engage other than looting scraps/etc for turn in. Mostly from Horde they didn’t kill. Blizzard needs to fix this very soon. These people are ruining what was once the best battleground in the game.
The visual that its “imbalanced” (i know thinking outside the box is hard for alliance) but its really not as bad as alliance perpetuate it to be. If the map mattered as much as alliance claim. 40 man premades wouldnt matter. 100% mounts carrots ect would all cease to matter because the only thing that matters is the map position. When alliance actually organize together they can win av pretty easily. But they dont do what horde does. After they lose SHGY they immediately fold. I never see horde going back around the horde push is organized groups to back cap or clear lts. I dont see alliance hearthing into their base to defend. They lose 1 gy and 2 bunkers and they fold and 20 alliance are left to defend against 35+ horde
Here we go with the horde and alliance are different, all the brain dead people are on X faction and the faction I’m on is better and I’m a better player than X.
Your argument is flimsy, the map is imbalanced.
Infact I did a Rez simulator all I’m real time at IBGY, it takes 5 minutes the hard cap IBGY, did you know at 1:50 into the rez’s at SHGY and horde cave to fight over IBGY at that time it’s 60 VS 20 at IBGY?
I assume no, because you think the faction your on is better without “thinking outside the box”.
Can you win a 60 vs 20?
Tbh I’m over the whole AV thing, I don’t que for it, I never did it to exalted, I went from staff of Dom to staff of the shadowflame, I don’t need it
Can’t wait for BC while in on my way to gladiator I get to see all these “pro” horde players who won AV hard stuck at 1800…it’s going to be glorious.
All I’m going to say to horde players is to play an ally character, you’ll see 20 dead and only half them rez. then you will see why AV is sooo dumb for ally.
Your heart seems to be in the right place, but please don’t do this. Don’t queue for this horrid battleground. Don’t reduce horde queue times. Don’t bother. Let AV be the battleground that never pops for horde.
All the successful or near successful alliance wins I had when I did my rep grind involved taking SF first and then it was a magical balancing act of keeping SHGY long enough for us to get IBT capped and held so we could get ahead on the timers.
And then some voodoo nonsense happened where most of the horde recalled back to try and stop the timers so they could get back ahead again and we were able to bottle neck them in their starting cave until we had a decent foot hold at the relief hut.
The reason horde refuse to believe that the issue is not map driven but player driven is this.
Alliance will complain ALL DAY about how horde racials are far superior for PVP and Shamans are broken. But if that was the case why are AB and WSG still 50-50 in terms of pug vs pug, premade vs premade? How was it that alliance had 95% win ratio on AV pre January?
so youll have to forgive us when we dont immediately believe the map imbalance plays that big of a factor when you guys hype up horde racials which dont seem to have this game breaking affect you guys claim it to have
Basically the good Alliance players got exalted and bailed asap and now you’re left with morons who don’t know how the game works because they got carried by premades.
Horde figured out a way to rush Vann as quickly as Alliance can rush Drek and now we’re on even ground, except that Alliance is seemingly incapable of strategy now.
Um yes? Every game during the last AV weekend had someone with a macro for the strategy. Groups 1-3 head north to backdoor while 4-8 stay at SHGY killing all lt’s and Bal, then reset-pull Vann and kill him. 6-7 minute win if done properly.
That view is balogna. Ruining the game experience for others, i.e. preventing the druids from fullfilling their intended use is clearly against the code of conduct. These players are ruining AV BG and are responsible for the lack of Alliance wins. In the original game, this did not happen and Alliance had a slightly better win rate than Horde. Begging Blizzard to start with notices and move quickly to suspensions then bans. This is unacceptable.
Clearly, this is intended behavior so that they can be released at the proper time. Then they can fulfill their intended use and summon the tree guy.
I mean, otherwise they’ll just be kited and killed. Which happens every single time they are allowed to head off without the ram riders. So you hold them and release them together.