N'Zoth LFR nerf please

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this is the most absurdly ridiculous statement I’ve seen on the forums in a while.

congrats. you win the Hysterical Hyperbole award of 3/19/2020

oh, and, git gud.

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@Ghaghzull, you are missing the point. For example, I don’t have a guild and haven’t had one for years. I enjoy solo play, but I also would like to experience raid content. LFR is perfect for players like me. I don’t have to get on discord, or socialize much with other players to experience the raid content. Blizzard has traditionally made LFR easy enough to where 25 non hardcore raiders who are complete strangers can complete it, even with 1 or 2 afks, and a couple of players not pulling their weight. Yet, I was part of 2 groups that had their health and damage increased by 50% and still could not beat it. In addition a lot of us had over 440 gear. it’s LFR, it should be easy otherwise what’s the point.

@Annastasi… I am pretty sure this is an exaggeration, I don’t think anyone believes, not even OP, that LFR is as hard as Mythic or Heroics.

My experience with durumu was quite different

very slow, VERY obviously telegraphed beam would go out, 8 derps would die. 3 would get battle rezed. Then on the next beam, 5 more die, three of which were already battle rezzed from the previous beam (because, you know… LFR)

then let’s not forget the maze. omg that maze.

and then the remaining 80% of the boss health was whittled down by a tank and 2-3 dps who had the capability of handling the beam/maze mechanics.

durumu was hilarious.

funnier even than garalon “don’t stand in the circles!” melee dps “DURRR U NO TELL ME WUT TO DO” /stands in circles, wipes raid.

I hope not, because he’s not.

the only hard part about LFR is the other people in it. Some are afk. Some are just garbage-level dps, some are healers not in heal spec, some can’t communicate, some won’t communicate. Most go in completely blind with no knowledge of what to expect. Most don’t learn from one pull to the next. There’s no group learning because people leave between attempts - new people come in and you’re back to having people who have no idea what’s going on because they can’t be bothered to take 5 minutes of their life to watch a hazelnutty video.

it’s a miserable way to experience a raid. BUT I don’t think they should make the raid difficulty any more negligible than it already is.

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Garalon was another one! Yeah, LFR has always had bosses where people who don’t care will cause huge issues. N’Zoth is no different.

This I will always vehemently disagree with. Look, I defend LFR often. I think it has its place. But when people believe they’re entitled to free gear just for zoning in (translated to the boss being so easy any group without a care can do it) then I start to question its purpose. If it’s to see the story, you have YouTube. Gear rains from the sky to the point LFR gear feels worthless. So what is the purpose of LFR other than to zone in and get free loot for no effort?

No, I don’t believe LFR should be easy. I think people should have to think in a video game, not just AFK and be done. I think that is beginning to show LFR is losing its purpose in this game when even an iota of challenge translates to complaints like this.

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So now when you have to do any mechanics at all, it’s equivalent to mythic raids? lol

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@Rhuor, I don’t know if I would call it free gear. At the moment, I have several 445 sitting in my bag that I can’t use because the ilvl is to low. It is too easy to get 430/445 gear without LFR. Timewalking dungeons, Mythic 0 dungeons, Warfront, conquest points, world quest, world bosses, etc.

@Nillah, LFR has always had mechanics, and considering the OP only saw it fit to create a post about this specific one, perhaps you should try to see where he is coming from instead of judging. I was surprised to by the difficulty aswell which is why I googled Nzoth LFR and stumble across this post.

Right, the game rains gear down upon you. And many of the bosses in LFR have been exceptionally easy and provide gear for virtually no effort.

So if LFR isn’t for the story (you can look it up on YouTube) and not for the gear (you can get this easier outside of LFR), then what purpose does it serve? Why should it exist in the first place? If it’s proving to be too difficult for people who don’t want to try, why lower the difficulty further? It’s so barebones now that it doesn’t provide really anything of substance. And each time Blizzard lowers the bar, we find more people incapable of doing it.

LFR used time have a point. I just don’t know that it does now.

I was just checking my LFR record, apparently I did Lei shin and Durumu 36 times in LFR. I know there are varying opinions on this, but I am telling you as someone who has a lot of experience doing LFR that Nzoth LFR seemed particular difficult. Determination is a mechanic than blizzard put in place to help LFR, at 10, even with mechanics it should have been easy to beat.

Ones that actually mattered and will cause a wipe if not followed by everyone? Very few.

Yeah because it’s slightly harder than most LFR fights. Because it has mechanics that can’t be ignored. We know. People have been making these posts ever since the fight came out, and they’ve done it for every other slightly difficult LFR fight in existence.

I’m going to keep judging whoever I want without your input.

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Making lfr easy will encourage players to afk more and this reason why you are wiping to N’Zoth. Lfr lost its meaning and its time for its removal.

I have to admit I didn’t look it up and died a few times to start but with each death I would look to see what I was dying from and would learn how to avoid those things as well as pay attention to those that have completed it were saying to do .

Now I’m the guy passing on the info to others in LfR .

To be honest I actually enjoy the challenge and to anyone thinks that it is as hard as or harder then mythic . You only have yourself to blame . Following simple mechanics is not hard and the challenge makes it feel more rewarding to do . If you want easy mode go play solitaire or bejeweled.

@Waidmann, OP vents his frustration on the difficulty of LFR, and somehow you mange to disguise an unhelpful suggestion and present it as an helpful comment while making it all about yourself… Bravo!

Anyways everyone is entitled to their own POV my only issue is with those who make it sound like the OP is hysterical.

  1. I am pretty sure that the OP saying that LFR is as hard as Mythic is an Hyperbole and he does not actually think that. At least that is what my common sense tells me.
  2. As a casual raider who raids, at all levels, I found Nzoth hard.

Then perhaps the OP should stay away from ridiculous hyperbole

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@Annastassi, perhaps you need to go back to school and learn what an hyperbole is. A quick google search would show you that an hyperbole is an, “exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.” An hyperbole by definition is meant to be ridiculous and not to be taken literally.

If I read a food review that said the meat was as hard as steel, my common sense would tell me that this is an exaggeration not to be taken literally. I guess common sense is not so common after all

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