Nullifying shroud

This sort of ability feels like the thing that either

  • every healer should have
  • or no healers should have (including holy priest)
  • or every healer should have an offensive dispel magic
  • or it should only last 4 seconds

It’s just sort of crazy that a PvP talent seems to be almost class defining.

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Let me introduce you to the wonderful ability called…

SAP

And if it means that much to you, play a comp with at least one dispel? It’s more of a deterrent, if you hit straight into it and waste CC that’s straight up a misplay on you.

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You can’t control for comp in a solo shuffle.

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As a healers main im super biased on this…

But playing at low rating and having to spend the entire game running away becuase some dps thinks they are skilled by running at you and throwing every cc they have at you… and having no way to punish them sucks. A healer being able to punish such stupid play is nice change.

Why play a healer when dps just throw every cc at you, die, then complain about dieing after doing nothing to stop it. Why are dps good when they can literally zug zug pve people and kill them. Big dam me strong!

Last game I did on my priest, a hunter did nothing be hold “W” towards me to trap. Feared him, MC’d, death’d traps did what I could to get away, but didnt stop him from just follwoing me behind every pillar trying to stand on me. Low rated so dps werent able to even pull defensive cds till late damp and mana issues came up.

When the hunter was on my team, he just complained about healers dieing.

Having a stop to cc trains and making people actually pay attention before mindless cc’ing is a good thing.

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Well thats just it, target prioritization? The buff isnt 100%, it has a long cooldown. You are a rogue, you can always just sap one worst case, best case sap them all as your team LoS if it means that much… but there is so much instant CC to take some off that it really isn’t that big of a deal.

It’s a great detterant but it’s not that deep. Every healer has their niche. It’s balanced around the fact that purges exist, alot of classes can dispel stuff now – or have spammable CC to remove the stacks quickly.

This is dead on, I’ll use it in solo shuffle on my evoker only to have it pretty much taken off in 5-10 secs from a rogue spamming sap lol. At first when it happened I was like what the hell just happened then realized it was a rogue spamming sap.

You heard it here guys everyone go reroll rogue or something with spam purge

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If a target is in combat, you can’t cast on sap them. So they can cast nullify after throwing a hot like reversion on someone.

Ok, they throw a hot and get into combat.
Cheap, Kidney, Gouge and its gone. Shove a blind, sap at the end and youve cleaned them off of the buff and set up yourself up while using 0 hard cds.

They trinket the blind? Perfect, you have all your offensive cds and they have no trinket. They die 15 seconds after once stun dr wears off.

Arent there still talents that reduce all of the above energy costs? Sub and Assass used to have it. If your Assass, change out gouge for garrote and youre doing better off

Yeah lets give all classes the same abilities with different textures, isn’t that what we all want? Or are we trying to grow away from class homogenization??

In solo shuffle, sure it is hard to sap off buffs like that because people tend to rush in, you could always ask them to wait back – but tbh must Evokers cast it later into the match vs rogues anyway.

It’s cool, might not be fun for you, but it gives them something else which makes the game more diverse and unique – we don’t want classes created equal, they should be stronger in different settings – we don’t want everything completely choreographed like real life do we?

See the buff up? Play around it. Playing with a dispel class? Ask them to dispel it – for shuffle purposes make a macro to spam /y Dispel Evoker if you need to.

It’s casted, 1minCD, purgable, 3 charges. That allows alot of counterplay from even non-purge classes and isn’t worth a complaint over what we are currently dealing with overall.

Yeah everyone reroll sub rogue, it’s super good – get the resonator trinket (talking to you DHs please reroll sub rogue)

What about the specs that can’t control an entire game with 6 different types of cc?

As a rogue this should not be a problem at all. Tell your teammates to let you sap it off. If they try to cast it after fighting has started… kick it. If they waste kick immunity to cast it, even better.

If you have no CC, what does Nullifying shroud matter then?

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Did I say no cc? Some classes don’t have nearly as much cc as rogue? Reading is hard

Remove two third of cc, then we can remove nullifying shroud. Game has 3 times amount of CC than wrath .

Horrible take

Nah wrath had way more cc half the classes had blanket silence you couldnt even trinket out of and fear didn’t dr with clone and made you sprint 60 yards away from your team. 10 sec duration blind, and kidney doesn’t dr with cheap

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What cc does a ret paladin has??? Now ret paladin has at least 3. What CC DK has beside slience???That is not even a cc, now I count at least 3.

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Way to invalidate yourself

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