Now that the Horde has arrived on Khaz Algar and is officially helping the various factions

This setting is too poorly managed to ever have a Von Carstein/Border Prince’s storyline.
Hell, this setting disrespects its own vampires to the point of abject mockery.

The mistake was introducing vampires in the first place. The Forsaken already sleep in coffins, hang out with giant vampire bats and feed on the living for sustenance.

I still hope one day if we get more customization big Nosferatu fangs will be an option. Along with a stiched body skin and options like brains in a jar on top of your skull or neck bolts.

Just let them be the general undead faction and stop selling off bits of the fantasy piecemeal to elves and the Alliance.

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I never really compared the vampire traits to forsaken, they always seem to be more ghouls than anything.

Vampirification absolutely should never have been an elven specific thing though.

There’s human vampires that came from a vyrkul vampire somewhere in Stormheim.

But honestly call me Trevor Belmont as I’d stake the whole lot of them. Let the Forsaken have the FW Murnau, Symphony of Horror vampire vibes. The elves can have their Alucard Symphony of the Night poofery.

And then Revendreth can. You know. Exist but like most of SL we just pretend it doesn’t unless someone wants to reuse it’s assets.

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IIRC it was from like…a relic or something? It was extremely light on lore but I think someone just liked the idea of vampirates and I don’t blame them. But apparently there’s some maguffin out there which turns people (or at least pirates) into vampires. Never mentioned again though which is really annoying considering Stormheim was a place Sylvanus had a lot of activity in and something like that might have really come in handy during BfA.

Ah well, I’ve got my Luthor Harkon transmog down and that’s enough for me lol.

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“Why don’t you go see how the Captured Mountaineer enjoys this special drink I made for him? It contains a subtle hint of what The Dark Lady has planned for the rest of Azeroth.

Everyone is our enemies.

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I love the Vampire Coast.

Like hey why don’t we corrupt somewhere tropical and pleasant for once then just buy undead wholesale from naturally occurring shipwrecks.

Blizzard is afraid of games workshops lawyers if they start following the rule of cool.

That and they just don’t care about the forsaken unless it has sylvanas front and center.

“I miss my castle what if I put it on my ship”. :rofl:

I love the absurd scale of Warhammer Fantasy

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I’m not sure if I do either.

I mean I love them, but she was a big part of what they are.

They could have killed her off, but made it subjectively cool and had the Forsaken continue to worship her. Maybe she could have saved Calia and then Calia could have become a priestess of Forgotten Shadow or something. Idk. The existence of the arbiter could have been revealed to be some grimdark horror and she could have volunteered for the job to keep souls out of the maw and address both her own wrongs and her perceived injustices of the system. Then the dark lady could really have “watched over us…”

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There is zero reason Tyrande shouldn’t have killed Sylvanas, condemned her to The Maw until she freed every soul, then she can go off to whatever Afterlife awaits her.

However, given that they’ve saddled said Afterlife with all versions of souls across all realities merge back into one in Shadowlands they could just say, “Sylvanas was the Banshee Queen in literally every reality except this one, so by pure soul democracy: Ipso Facto Diarrhea Cheerios! Sylvanas is the Banshee Queen again.”

It really doesn’t make sense to me where she gets this power and authority to condemn, in a plane of existence not her own.

Sylvanas could have been punished and stayed cool though. Instead of punishing Sylvanas they punished her fans.

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They should’ve gone all the way with BfA’s embarrassing retracing of MoP and given us an even cheesier sequel to War Crimes. How would Azeroth’s finger-waggers have navigated the prosecution of a deposed warchief literally absent her conscience at the time of her crimes? Could Uther have gotten her off with NGRI?

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Sylvanas basically stopped existing the moment Zovaal gave back her soul fragment. IIRC, she basically submitted herself to Tyrande’s judgement.

Brief aside, for my money, Tyrande & Elune got the absolute worst of it during SL (and that’s saying a lot). Enigmatic moon goddess of the Night Elves got turned into an incompetent dope sister of the robo-deity of the most toothless and tame spin on the Unseelie Court I’ve ever seen. Proceeds to troll her most super favoritest priestess at the worst possible moment, because rEnEwAl or something.

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Elune got did so dirty. They removed everything that made her mysterious or cool and turned her into a really generic goddess who came off as extremely callous and as a bumbling idiot.

She was a better character when she was literally just the moon. Make her the moon again.

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Seriously the Winter Queen’s design was some Guillermo Del Torro stuff. They have some hints of greatness with their magic being based around stuff like a secret never spoken and soul rot curses being seeing as a prank. But they never slide into the full viciousness they should’ve.

The Fae are pretty but just as if not more terrifying than any undead nightstalker if you’ve read your folklore. Vampires are pretty easy to avoid just go to bed on time. But it’s pretty hard not to accidentally step into a mushroom circle unless you tread very carefully off the beaten path.

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I’ve been enjoying From for some good demented fey stuff. Ardenweald might as well have been Dark Turquoise Ashenvale. Looked nice, but I really would have preferred something vicious.

Give me forest spirits painting tapestries on flayed skin and slipping into reality to swap babes with changelings.

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Ardenweald really had nothing at all fae about it . It was very “20th century” fairy, Tinkerbell type stuff. They tried to dress it up with names, but names was all they were.

FFS the “Wild Hunt” was literally just a town guard. That doesn’t draw from the folklore of the Wild Hunt in any way whatsoever.

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“Write that down, write that down!”

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