Not Telling the Whole Truth with Covenants (SL Beta Quest Spoilers)

Some of us don’t have the time to invest in characters that we play less than our mains.

That’s why they’re called alts. I haven’t had a max level alt since WoD, and even then I only had one.

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Yes, because they are the questing zones. If anything though, I would say this was the mistake they made story wise, not that they don’t allow you to complete them. You should pick a covenant at the start and see the shadowlands story exclusively through their eyes.

Yes yes, I know how covenants work. Thanks.

Because you aren’t loyal to bastion.

Because you aren’t loyal to revendreth.

Actually, I agree with you here. I don’t think covenants should affect gameplay in any way. The meaningful choice imo is in aesthetic/story/rp. When you have to choose between that and gameplay it makes it less meaningful.

You weren’t loyal to them at the start either, but they accepted your help and hailed you as a champion the very first time you step foot in the zone at level 50.

That’s the point.

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Which is why I said:

I mean, sure, but that requires completely revamping the entire story and the flow from zone to zone.

So the easiest fix is just remove the covenant restriction for the main quest plot since they don’t acknowledge you as a member of any covenant in the quests. Night Fae and Bastion don’t mention you becoming a coven member during the second half quests that open after you hit 60.

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You obviously don’t read. This is 4 Separate parts of 1 story line. Not 4 factions with 4 views on the same story. These are aspects of the story we initiated and dont get to complete. It’s not the same.

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I’m in beta and I’m telling you that the entire thing is connected.

Avoiding spoilers as best as I can, you go from Bastion to find out what’s happening in Maldraxxus, from then you’re sent to the Night Fae because the two coven leaders are friends, and then you’re sent to Ravenholdt before things goes BOOM and you’re sent back to the first main zone to pick a covenant.

I wish people would stop saying they’re not connected. They are not 4 separate stories. They are absolutely connected.

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BlizZard managed to screw up the main story arc for systemlands by cutting it up into pieces and expecting players to follow the crumb trail by having alts? It was bad enough that Boring Shore storyline was cut up and then BFA war campaign was drip fed to players like they are toddlers.

What is wrong with this company? :-1: :-1: :-1:

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i would love to experience all story lines. i would like a swift fix but i guess ill have to have 1 of every cov for the story line.

Let’s say if I went through that on my main and picked one of the covenant, does that mean that I have to replay 50% of the other 3 covenant’s storyline on my alts?

Each story is uniquely connected. The Covenant is more than just the story it’s the soulbind and also the unique underlays like the Trial of Ascencion or throwing the gathering with Venthyr. The Necrolords stitching things together or the Queens Conservatory with Night Fae.

The Covenants are fine as is and I have completed 3/4 of the Covenant campaigns. Everything is fine.

I can’t understand whats hard about having 4 total characters you run through the stories with. If you don’t want to do that watch a video of someone doing it.

It’s not the big deal people are making it to be.

There is nothing unique about the covenant story being split up in such a fashion. And by doing that with the story BlizZard is admitting that systemlands is devoid of content.

But I knew that from seeing how they haven’t put much work into the MAW as an example. It is basically Argus minus attention to detail. :+1:

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it seems to methat the simplest way to fix this would be to acknowledge that we are not the ONLY maw Walker, but one of many albeit a limited amount, and that once we decide on a covenant, its ok because the other covenants will also have their own walkers to help them

i never liked being the big ole hero, i like being one of the big heroes like all the other characters i see. all of the threats we faced we did not face alone, heck even in some of the raid quests, they say gather some of your friends, which to me anyways, implies there ARE other heroes of our caliber out there in the world…

im not a writer for the game, but that is how i would solve this weird sort ofposition

One of the things I’ve said is unlock the class abilities from the covenants and make them all work with our chosen main covenant. Say like since I am a hunter and I go with the Venthyr all the hunter abilites work with the Venthyr soul binds.

Maybe one way to get the other abilities is by completing the stories for the other covenants.

I have basically been planning on leveling at least 4 toons for this reason.

I am very nervous going into SL because quite frankly I do not agree with the developers (or the vocal parts of the community) on a lot of issues. Time will tell.

For me the world quests being removed (or rather turning into something else is probably the biggest issue I have against it.

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I’m really starting to think meaningful choice to Blizz means.

We meaningfully choose to create a system that makes people HAVE TO make multiple characters in order to 1; see everything, 2; play multiple specs and 3; play multiple forms of all content on their chosen class/spec. We do this to increase the time played numbers to increase the happiness of more meaningful members of the wow/blizzard community , our investors.

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Because not everyone wants to spend the extra hours leveling up extra toons of the same class/specs just to help time played numbers for their investors.

They would rather see it on their main toon and if they want to see it on another they want to do it on a toon of a different class.

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The problem with having to do the 4 covenant stories is having to find a class that actually can use each covenant efficiently, especially if they don’t pull the ripcord.

I agree. Make the class-specific abilities a tier 60 talent row with 4 options they can even lock them to the point that if you want to choose a specific ability you would have to be in that area’s hub to activate.

My problem with this system is soul binds. The soul binds within each covenant are not balanced. I have seen mention from some saying that certain covenants have a BIS soulbond that isn’t available to the others. So now one is choosing an ability vs bis soulbind vs RP/mog.

I wish there were mobility options for all the covenants, but I also guess I understand why there isn’t – not wanting everything to be the same.

You pour months and months into the various stories so blizzard gets their 15 bucks for each month.

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That’s not helpful, but thanks…