I’m just copy pasting his linkedin. February 2006 to June 2006 is not:
He was a programmer, we don’t know what he was tasked with.
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So then you admit he wasn’t a dev, and my original point stands. Glad we cleared that up.
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WoW developers/programming positions are never completely singular tasks. You’re just here to argue some nonsense about things you know nothing about.
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Wow, that teenager sure is good at flipping burgers. Make him the next president of McDonalds!
I like RDF, it breaks up the monotony of questing.
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You stop the questing and go to the dungeon.
sadly /dance and typing lfg grant no xp. why this solution on slow/dead times is not really ideal.
Not even joking…I pull my 60-+ from outland to run by first. Anderhol to Monastery can be fun mid 30’s if a mob sees you for alliance. she scouts the place out. If dead…its a quest night for this char. 3 minutes to save this char way more time. and a death or 2 if unlucky.
Please explain why the TBC community is trash now even without LFD then… We will sit here and wait, please take your time and explain in detail.
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Idk where you have been, but server community has been a huge part of Classic and TBC Classic. You probably aren’t going to see it if you are an anti-social basement dweller that refuses to talk to people, but I have played on Mankrik, Blaumeux, and Whitemane and all three have very solid communities full of people working together, helping each other and just being decent all around. There are also friendly rivalries between guilds and players on opposing factions that I have seen and been a part of first-hand. This is the glory days of WoW and continuing that is a good thing.
Blizzard has made a solid decision and I fully support them. If you don’t like the fact that dungeon finder will not be in WotLK I suggest you play retail.
Im also waiting with you
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Or if you don’t like LFD in Lich King, you can go play vanilla classic. See? It goes both ways.
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So I take it then that as soon as WOTLK comes out you will be quitting?
Cause if you are playing for the Glory days those days are long gone.
Not because of RDF,but because the people who play nowadays are people who don’t enjoy leveling and instead want everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.
Of course after they have boosted to max level so they don’t have to go through the ‘monotony’ of leveling and doing low level dungeons.
Imagine not wanting to level or do early content in a MMORPG.
Shock horror.
RDF was a part of WOTLK and not having it in there is not the good ol’ WOTLK that a fair chunk of us enjoy and remember.
And like others and myself keep saying.
Don’t like it, don’t use it.
Don’t make casuals suffer because of your sensibilities.
No one is taking your guild or your friends away from you.
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Except Blizzard removed LFD from WotLK, so I will enjoy playing it. Sorry you don’t agree with this excellent change Blizzard made.
You can still be casual and play WotLK. Everyone did it 12-14 years ago and you will be just fine doing it again.
Don’t like it? Don’t play it. Go play retail if you want dungeon finder.
That’s true, but dungeon finder is THE reason for the decline of the social aspect of WoW. Argue against that point all you want, but it is a fact. Blizzard realized that and decided that removing dungeon finder is the way to go and I applaud them for it.
No Dungeon Finder – Players rediscovering Wrath of the Lich King Classic won’t find the Looking for Dungeon feature originally added in Patch 3.3.5. We’ve heard from our Classic community that the importance of social bonds is a big part of what makes Classic their game of choice, and we agree.
That’s crazy, I could have sworn when I looked at my other monitor a second ago I was on a level 30 shaman doing some quests.
Lots of generalizations and assumptions backed up by absolutely no proof of anything.
I wonder why WoW subscribership dropped so hard post-WotLK. I wonder what changed at the end of WotLK that could made such a large chunk of the player base quit?
2008 to 2010 sub numbers at roughly 11.5-12.0 million.
Dungeon finder released with patch 3.3.5 in June 2010.
2010 to 2013 sub numbers drop to roughly 7.8 million.
Coincidence that subscriber numbers crashed shortly thereafter?
But this version of WOTLK Classic will be running on patch 3.3.5.
Even though they said it won’t contain all the systems and stuff it isn’t unfair to have expected RDF to be a part of it.
And attributing the fall of WoW is a really far stretch and nothing short of fallacious.
Maybe it was for you,but you are not everyone.
If I wanted to play retail I would.
I don’t play retail because retail is too easy in terms of content other than current meta content.
Leveling in retail is also far too fast.
Do a single quest chain and out level an entire area.
Hell if it weren’t for level scaling killing a few mobs would put you over the level for quests.
Don’t use retail as an argument against RDF.
It was on patch 3.3.5 of WOTLK and it should still be there for people who WANT to use it instead of waiting 3 hours for a dungeon join.
You people always use that as an excuse for the decline of WoW and every single we tell you it’s not.
People will leave when they stop having fun or have better things to do.
Others will leave because they don’t like the way the game is going.
Some because of RDF perhaps but they are being petty.
But most of them would have been for other reasons.
I’m sorry if you were one of them but that’s on you,not Blizzard or us casuals.
No Dungeon Finder – Players rediscovering Wrath of the Lich King Classic won’t find the Looking for Dungeon feature originally added in Patch 3.3.5. We’ve heard from our Classic community that the importance of social bonds is a big part of what makes Classic their game of choice, and we agree.
They listened to a minority and decided that it would save them time so they jumped on it.
Only a fool thinks that RDF destroy communities.
People destroy communities,not tools to help people find dungeon groups easier.
If it was then retail would have died long ago.
Now I don’t know what to say about time frames when WoW ‘died’ but some people say WOTLK (In other words people like you) while others say Cataclysm so on so forth.
But in terms of player count WoW is anything but dead.
Go try playing Dofus/Runescape and all those other MMORPGs out there and you will see dead for what it really is.
The problem with WoW is that the community sucks and are too spoiled/entitled/lazy and don’t wanna PLAY the game outside of current end tier content.
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I expected them to remove it. One of us had to be disappointed, guess it’s you.
“Stop having fun”… You mean like seeing WoW turn into a world of a-hole infested anonymity?
Sorry bud, WotLK is happening and dungeon finder won’t be there. Feel free to go play something else, the rest of us will be enjoying having server communities and an MMORPG that still has a social aspect to it.
One of us?
A lot of us.
That’s on people,not RDF.
You keep blaming RDF for that but it’s people not a tool to help people do dungeons easier that is the cause of the current state of the community.
I don’t intend on quitting because RDF isn’t gonna be in the new WOTLK.
I love WOTLK,even without the dungeon finder.
But back when I played people actually made an effort to level and do dungeons and whatnot.
People don’t do that now.
So I’ll probably wind up leveling solely through quests and not doing a single dungeon unless someone is nice and patient enough to spend 3 hours spamming LFG chat.
I’m just expressing my disappointment in a decision that punishes people for no valid reason.
If I do quit,it won’t be because of RDF,it will be because I have found something else to do with my free time.
How many times have you done RFC/Wailing Caverns/Stratholme/RFD/RFK/UBRS/SM:G so on so forth since playing?
Just pulling out some examples of dungeons that have quests that NO ONE does outside of having a level 70 pull every single mob and nuke them in a second or two at the cost of several gold.
K bye.
Pre-RDF most servers had a very effective way of policing themselves and dealing with toxic players. If someone was toxic they had a choice; Change their ways and be welcomed back into the community or continue to be toxic and be blacklisted from groups.
That same form of policing exists today on Classic Era and TBC Classic servers and it is why Classic is so much better than retail.
RDF destroyed that system. Players were able to join groups at the click of a button and treat people like crap or ninja loot with no consequences because they can simply click the button again and hop to the next dungeon with the next group and repeat.
I’m sorry your ability to be a terrible person in groups is going to be limited because RDF was removed, but it is for the better.
I do each dungeon at least once while leveling a character for quests. It’s the way I have always leveled and the way I will continue to level.
And adding RDF is going to change that?
No,it’s not.
As far as I’m aware if you add someone to ignore you won’t be saddled with them in dungeons through the RDF and they can’t message you and you can’t see them in chats.
And blaming RDF for what some people do is very unfair.
I faced that same problem when I was trying to drop the Needle Encrusted Scorpion back in WOTLK.
Do I blame RDF for that?
No, I blame the person responsible (He was very well known back then and I was unaware of the ignore function because before I met him I had no reason to use it)
Not including RDF is punishing people who don’t have an active guild or people who don’t want to spend hours recruiting for dungeons.
Why assume I was one of those horrible people?
I’ve met them a couple of times during WOTLK/Cata/Pandaria and so on so forth but nowhere near as much I encounter them on retail.
That’s not because of RDF, that’s because of people.
People choose to be pricks.
RDF does not make them pricks,it just makes being a prick a little easier.
So do you mean to say you manage to find a group of level appropriate players for every single dungeon on every single new character you make?
I call bull.
How many times have you paid to have someone drag you through a dungeon or had one of your guildies take you through to do quests?
Cause that’s not what I’m talking about.
I’m talking about doing dungeons as they were originally intended.
With groups of people your level and with all the hardships and excitement that entails.
I’ve done RFC ONCE on a single character in this version of classic.
And it took 3 hours to get 2 other people.
How many times do you think I got whispered with offers of being dragged through for gold?
Or bored level 70’s who wanna kill some time before their next raid?
Where is the fun in that?
No one recruits for level appropriate dungeons.
At least not on my server.
But this server is the only non pvp server for Oceania.
Back in WOTLK I originally started on Frostmourne with my friend.
But I left for Dath’remar because I was sick and tired of hiding in dungeons because some max level guy was stalking low level areas killing all the quest npcs and anyone unfortunate enough to be caught out on the road alone.
I will never go to another pvp realm ever.
It’s absolutely fair when RDF is the catalyst that initiated the downfall of WoW communities.