Because the content will be altered once the whining starts.
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great in theory. But I think 3 hours of normal and longer for heroic clear in a LFR setting when weāre already having backfill, and people are qualified in gear but not in skill. I think you would just be asking for a painful experience.
yes and in a normal raid you can kick the deadweight, so people who donāt absolutely suck can defeat bosses.
that doesnāt happen in lfr. instead htey had to give determination so you could defeat bosses even with the deadweight.
itās a complete farce.
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It surely would benefit casuals a lot, but we all know that the special snowflakes donĀ“t want to share their profit and therefore donĀ“t want them in ātheirā content.
Just imagine what the world would come to, if everyone could wear normal raid gear or heroic! They would all lose their precious and could no longer feel superior.
LFR and LFD should offer all difficulty settings that exist and I would even go that far and say, that the entire system needs a rework.
There is a leveling difficulty, that also allows you to queue for old LFR and then a normal one that unlocks on max level. If you have a certain ilvl and a clear from normal, you can queue for heroic.
Mythic stays there for premades, so they can keep their āI am better than youā feeling.
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Casual players are perfectly content doing whatever.
M+ is already handing out Mythic gear as welfare loot; thereās zero accomplishment in having any piece of gear in the game.
The accomplishment is having beaten the encounters in the first place. Thatās the whole damn point.
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I am a casual and I dont want normal or heroic on LFD. I dont like content having to be dumbed down
Randomized groups need all stacks of determination in Raid Finder Difficulty, if the slightest bit of required coordination isnāt completely nerfed out. You are all smoking some serious stuff if you think any random queued group could down a single boss in a current heroic raid tier
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No, it would just lead to an extremely terrible experience.
Long queues, getting yelled at for not doing mechanics, and constant wiping. This would cause more people to unsub than simply being a little bored.
One only has to look at how GD is reacting to delves to get a taste of what normal/heroic queues would look like.
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This is a terrible idea. It would just be Lfr dialed up to x11.
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Just finished the raid on Normal - tell me why this cant be on LFR.
I am ready for your questions now.
COnvince me, this cannot go on LFR with Ilevel enforcement.
I followed basic wowhead raid cheat sheet & and any suggestions that were typed in chat.
I did not sweat over in discord.
Thatās what LFR is.
Tuned down so you canāt get blocked by poor performance in random matchmade content (most people are quite bad.)
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I 100% would.
Never said it needs to be toned down.
Just curious why you think normal cannot go on LFR.
With a bit of help from blizzard, where we get good gear from delves. We can easily counter the next normal raid if it goes on lfr.
They canāt, originally in Cataclysm raid finder was tuned to be a normal raid, then they had to scale back the mechanics almost instantly, and eventually had to scale back damage. Itās apparent that queued content always has to be easier then non queued content so adding these to queuable content would destroy their difficult levels and make it so there was no lose scenario.
I donāt think its wise for us to throw everything off balance just because we wish to have things we donāt have. They introduced delves for those of us that canāt get into raids but want difficulty, perhaps try there.
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I agree but mostly because it would have zero impact on people who make their own groups, those systems would still be in place. They already check for item levels to begin with and yes, it would probably be hard and isnāt that a good thing? You people whine all day about the game not being challenging, queue up for some hard content with actual random people and have a go at it.
How about, as a first step, we remove Determination.
And see if LFR can be done on LFR.
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I watched what the raid leader was doing.
He only had the level set to 595.
Only typed for anub and anu boss.
Did not type any where else.
I only had wowhead raid cheats in the side to glance.
Bosses were down, taunts were going off on time. We were making swaps.
All of this in the first week.
Now what if blizzard does not reduce the damage and keeps lfr and normal.
If players want to get into normal. They first need to clear lfr.
Players who que into for are not serious.
But what if those players who week after week are completing lfr but canāt be asked to find a group.
If we kill anukrek 5 times week after week. Can we qualify to que normal mode using group finder ? Everyone have ilevwk enforcement and number of boss kills.
This should be a good bench mark.
I understand what you are saying. But there are ways we can tackle this and make is easy for people to get into.
i mean just doing the regular looking for groups is easy. lots of pugs.
Iām onboard with this.
Blizzard just needs to actively figure out how to discourage the 1 pull leaver issue first. Guilds in their current iteration for progging exist solely to āshameā players into not paper hands dipping. Some of us keep guilds as social only and want no part in mixing gear with social to such an extent. Some form of system to discourage instadipping needs to be added first for PUGs.
It took over 50 pulls to prog on broodtwister the other day on heroic we already had a leaver issue where 95% of the time was spent reforming the group over and over.
Iām already 8/8 Normal and 6/8 Heroic for Nerubar btw with using premade finder and raid leading PUGs exclusively.
Iām for it.
Who cares about what the elitists think anyway, they shouldnāt get to dictate how the rest of us get to play this game.
Put it all on the streamline.