Strong orc who did a great thing with a weapon that wasn’t his, imbued with power he could not fathom.
Wowee.
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For that matter no one sings of Rhonin or Krassus either.
When the Night Elves first encountered Humans, no one stopped and said. “Didn’t one of those do us a major solid 13,000 years ago when the Burning Legion first invaded?” If you’re going to whine about Broxigar, lets not leave out the two who did the majority of the heavy lifting.
More than likely once the time distortion had settled the Bronze Flight did their best to make sure that the whole temporal intervention was rubbed out of history.
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Whatever, genius. He said he wanted to be sung about.
Sargeras not taking him seriously until his divine magic ax hurt him, and then crushing him like the fly he was, isn’t that epic.
Let alone we know he wasn’t important to the grand scheme of things since events without him still worked out, before other forces tried to help Sargeras win. Saying he was critical is like saying the PC was critical to Opening the Black Portal, Purging Stratholme, and Thrall Escaping Durnholde, we were merely fixing what somebody was trying to break.
Moral of the story is Sargeras was overconfident and messed up focusing on his long term goal first, same as in Legion, where he went after Azeroth instead of crushing us first.
Also that Blizzard left themselves an out if they want to pick back up the RTS and ignore WoW’s story.
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Orcs don’t make statues of their heroes. You see plaques from time to time, but orcs seem to honour their fallen more in naming things after them rather than building statues of them. That’s more of a elf, dwarf or human thing to do.
The orcs they encountered were demon blood-infused, which is why the night elves attacked them, thinking they worked for the Legion. Brox wasn’t demon blood infused when he time travelled.
I don’t think he was, only after he took the blood of Mannoroth was he the villain. He is the playable hero character at the time still and everything.
Well I did play as Arthas as he butched cities of people in the Lich King’s name, so I’m not sure being a playable hero is a commentary on their morality.
Yeah, but the point is the elves come out of nowhere and attack you, while you are playing the Orc campaign and emphasizing with their characters, so they seem like villains at first meeting.
Brox had green skin from the fel, too, didn’t he? Grom and the others were attacked for being fel tainted before they drank the blood again.
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being green don’t mean yo are fel infused, and the blood only make then stronger in a short time, by the time the draenei war.
nop, they were being attacked because they were cutting trees.
Fel taint was covered in this answer from the CDevs:
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Q: How does Cenarius view the Horde? Considering that Cenarius’ first instinct upon seeing orcs in his forest was to attack them, and Cenarius was killed by the father of the current warchief, it seems odd that Cenarius and his allies are so cordial to the Horde and orcs in particular in Hyjal.
A: Despite no longer having warlocks in their ranks, the orcs of Thrall’s Horde still carried within them the unmistakable mark of the Burning Legion upon their very souls up until the moment that Grom Hellscream defeated Mannoroth. Cenarius, as a being so attuned to nature that he can sense the slightest corruption, assumed that the orcs in Ashenvale were scouts of the Legion. This, ironically, sent the Warsong clan back into the service of Mannoroth and lead to the reestablishment of their connection to the potent fel magics that first bound them to the Legion. Cenarius’s spirit returned to the Emerald Dream after his defeat, and within it, he was able to sense the events of the Battle of Mount Hyjal. Cenarius saw the orcs defend Nordrassil hand-in-hand with the night elves and humans, and developed a growing respect for them. Cenarius saw that, despite their fel taint, they were allies against the Legion and defenders of the land (noting Garrosh’s father’s victory over his former enslaver in particular), so when both he and the Horde returned to Hyjal to defend the World Tree once again, Cenarius saw the orcs and their allies in a new light.
i know that, but, like in the very link you provide, only Cenarius was able to even see the corruption in their soul, and he appear much later
the elves killed the orcs because in their words: " These green-skinned brutes have no respect for life! Slay them in Elune’s name!" and apperently cutting trees is have no respect for life and they to die for it.
Sure, but I was responding to Ximothy on the topic of fel:
To which the relevant part of your post was:
To which the CDevs answered:
Time travel makes that less clear, since Brox went back to a time when Mannoroth was still alive. It’s hard to say, especially with the whole notion that due to time travel Cenarius would have already known what he learned later in the Dream.
Oddly enough those same elves also forgot the Human that they met at the same time as the Night Elves also fired on Jaina’s people when they were encountered.
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those are two different things, they are fel tainted, showed by their skin, and bound by manoroth showed in their souls, but not “infused”, tainted yeah.
I think Ximothy said demon blood-infused since the Orcs like Saurfang and likely his brother drank Mannoroth’s blood back on Draenor before coming to Azeroth.
Yes, he did, but he wasn’t fel infused anymore at the time of time travelling.
Like what you yourself sourced;
The corruption upon their souls. That’s what Cenarius sensed and why he was attacking them (no comment on other elves)
Corruption which Brox no longer had when he time traveled.
Green skin in upon itself is not really proof of fel corruption. Durotan and the Frostwolves got their green skin just being around fel, that’s not the same as having a corrupted soul by drinking Mannoroth’s blood. Heck goblins and forest trolls are naturally green. Being green isn’t going to be enough to prove someone is fel corrupted. Brox was just a green skinned warrior when he time travelled.
But the orcs of the Warsong carried Mannoroth’s blood and demon corruption in their heart, thus Cenarius attacked them thinking them demons.
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Broxigar the Red should be remembered for his legendary feats one of which he was the only Orc in history to have injured Sargeras and 1 of 2 mortals in existence to hurt Sargeras. Broxigar was a veteran of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Wars. In the 3rd War Broxigar was the only warrior to be left standing against overwhelming odds out of his warband. Broxigar felt guilty for surviving and was looking for battles to make him worthy of being sung about by his people for being an honorable hero, so one day he followed some bronze dragons into a timeway that took him back 10,000 years during the War of the Ancients. When the War of the Ancients seemed to be a defeat to Azeroth’s forces Broxigar jumped through the Well of Eternity by himself. Broxigar slayed so many demons that it would take days to count them in his last battle of the War of the Ancients, by himself with no help. Yes, he had an axe made and blessed by Cenarius but the weapon was only as strong as Broxigar. When he struck Sargeras, Broxigar gave Malfurion time to close the Well of Eternity and defeat the Legion. One last feat of Broxigar is that it took 3 moonguards to take him down and make him powerless it usually only takes 1 to bring a handful of enemies down. He is one of the most badass characters in WoW. Saying he should not remember is just plain ignorance.
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Blizzard really needs to make threads auto-lock after enough time has passed.
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Four years later, I stand by this assessment, if not the phrasing.
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