"Non skill elements will always affect your performance"

He’s just one of those “telling it like it is” people who think that gives them an excuse to be rude towards other people.

More “never try to be a better player” silliness.

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Hey we should be more like Ralph

Why try when we can buy

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If wow isn’t a high skill cap game why do you not have CE glad and or even all your 15s done should be easy peasy.

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True I know it has that side effect, like when my haters end up talking to themselves on my threads and probably going off topic, usually what I assume happens when I see 5 hidden replies in a row xD

But like I said, I know many people are lazy and dont bother to read the posts between the OP and their reply which makes me feel the more unbiased people will read it like that, without heavy bias. (Unless they are the type of person that my posts clearly implies negative stuff about, then they ll get defensive and I know not to bother much because if someone gets ultra defensive, more than likely their core beliefs arent gonna change by my arguments, my attitude works as a detector of sorts)

I understand your point, you arent wrong, I am weighing the advantages and disadvantages of the style of posting I am doing and choosing to stay like that because the advantages outweigh the disadvantages from my perspective.

I understand that might seem weird to someone who finds the disadvantages to be that much bigger but I am used to such responses since I am often outspoken as I usually am the type who will attack the status quo no matter how much it upsets people, I have found that pushing for things that are right, if they upset the status quo, you are gonna get flack no matter what, and a loud person that upsets them lasts in their memory far longer than a nice friendly ultra non confrontative person who might actually in their mind believe that it is merely a “slight disagreement” and forget about you.

I mean you can simply see that by me living rent free in many of my haters’ minds, they cannot forget that I am a huge supporter of the covenants and go directly against them, while they can often dismiss soft spoken casuals as “they are just bad, dont know how the game works” in their minds.

Except you don’t actually care about covenants. All you care about is annoying people.

Except you aren’t a casual. You’re one of the “try hards” you keep railing against. Which further highlights the absurdity of your arguments.

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As someone who’s gotten annoyed or upset by others’ posts in the past, I can say it’s unlikely that the majority of people who’re annoyed and upset by your posts focus on them for longer than they need to in order to post things a few times. And you need to realize, if you’re a big supporter of something, people are going to link the way you argue and that system together in their minds and they’ll be more likely to dislike and disagree with the system you like so much, which in turn can easily lead to the system being changed or scrapped entirely.

The way you make these threads and posts is not only not helping you, it’s moreso actively hurting you in the long run.

What? How so?

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We have opposing views, any changes to this covenant system goes against what is wanted. Trying to get it changed is actively going against that.

Not to mention people that try to get LFR/LFG removed on a daily basis.

Okay… but how is allowing everyone to have access to the covenant abilities affecting your gameplay?

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Wanting covenants to be more easily switchable is not that gargantuan of a change. All it does is make the game more fun to play.

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And you just gave an excellent example of someone who is wrong and lets their feelings control how they view things, I have little interest in the person you just described which is why my posting style is so helpful at recognizing such people.

And I dont believe I have that level of influence to lead to what you said.

Again like i said, my advantages outweigh the disadvantages, it might be the opposite for you, but that is the case for me. I know of the disadvantages you speak of, I simply dont consider them as bad as you do.

It doesn’t even have to be covenants. Just the abilities.

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Absolute delusion.

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But it doesn’t, It takes away a core piece of what makes covenants a fun idea. Think about it like the story of Arthas right, or some other champion. These powers they gain that don’t match their classes abilities. They didn’t come from nowhere. There is a story behind it. Arthas’s transformation from Paladin to DK started with a slow transition and it began with just a few abilities. Some of us want there to be story behind the abilities we obtained. To us that is a huge thing. Removing that, removes the fun from it. Now it’s just any other faction the game has introduced with a new name to it.

You’ve not clearly explained the advantages of being needlessly confrontative and aggressive, so I can’t really agree with you on your methods. If you could explain what the advantages of the way you make these threads and posts are, maybe I or others could agree. But if you don’t explain what advantages you perceive yourself as gaining from the way you speak to others, you’ll have very, very few people that will ever actually agree with you or even like you much. What good is ten people that might agree with you when the way you’ve spoken to people has caused ten thousand to disagree and dislike you?

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There’s no “slow transition though”. These abilities will be gone once the next expansion comes out. This is all temporary borrowed power stuff and people are acting like it’s suddenly a much bigger deal than it actually is.

But there is a slow transition, it begins with questing. Getting to know the covenants. Then joining those covenants. When joining there is a story of obtaining the powers and then we discuss soulbinds which further unlocks powers and a story behind those which we too have to unlock. It’s all story to our power. Is it all borrowed power that goes away? Sure, however that is all Blizzard is willing to give to us, should we not accept it just because it’s not fully what we want?

And then 10.0 comes out and they vanish as if they were never actually there. They will have absolutely no lasting impact on our characters whatsoever.

I really do not get the intense attraction to a temporary system that isn’t even live yet.

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There’s nothing fun about getting my lvl 100 talent turned into borrowed power.

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Of course you don’t. The fantasy is obviously not that important to you. The people that enjoy this system is the same that enjoys the Artifact system in Legion. It ties a story to your character and the power gained. It being temporary sucks I agree. I would love for the powers we gained to stay.

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