#nochanges is a religion

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I mostly post crap. But I do have my moments. :sunglasses:

Cheers.

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Give Ravenholdt my love. It sucks seeing what’s become of it.

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Hating on #nochanges is like hating on streamers. Unproductive and makes you seem triggered.

:cocktail:

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No, what we want is for a version of Classic WoW that is as close to Vanilla as possible while completely closing the door on possible future changes by Blizzard because we don’t trust them to know the long-term effects of changes.

To ensure that door remains closed, we have to scream #NoChanges at anything in the beta that deviates from 1.12 Vanilla. We are not going to win every battle but the point is to let Blizzard know that there is always going to be a battle.

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Here’s the thing. Vanilla itself was a watered down mmo for the masses. I agree it was harder than 1.12. However how much harder it was is being seriously overblown by the people who are saying its a watered down for the masses vanilla.

I leveled mainly solo. Only grouping for quests that I absolutely had to, which were really just dungeon quests. I solo’d the wetlands elite quests, solo’d the badlands elite quests, as well as many other elite quests. Solo’d as a warrior in the beginning. Well before 1.12 was a thing.

If it was as hard as the 1.12 naysayers are wanting me to believe than that wouldn’t have been doable but it was.

I just don’t get why people can’t be happy getting a blizzard endorsed vanilla regardless of patch. Is it what I really want? Hell no. Is it better than what we have available? Hell yes. Will it be good enough for everyone to enjoy? You bet your a*s it will be.

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The only change I’d be ok with is the addition of Archaeology. It’s harmless and would give us something else to do out in the world.

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BRING OUT THE SHACKLES! REPENT!

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Of all the posts you could have made that I agree with, it had to be this one. Haha.

Well said, you silly alcoholic.

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:beers:

:cocktail:

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I agree that there are a lot of changes that would enhance the Classic experience without seemingly breaking anything. I liked both the Archaeology and Jewelcrafting professions. But if we open the door for one change, we open the door for a 100.

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AND we open the door to Blizzard screwing the pooch harder than they possibly could be now.

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#nochanges does meet a lot of the criteria of a religion.

Mindlessly chants a mantra without understanding it.
Wants to kill anyone who disagrees with them.
Often has to employ mental gymnastics when shown the illogic of their position.
No sense of reality.
Imagines problems that don’t exist.
Doesn’t properly remember the past.

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That doesn’t sound like me at all, Ziryus. That’s character assassination right there.

EDIT: Accidentally wrote “assination.” WTF brain. Was out in the humidity for too long…

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Same could be said for the ‘Wall of No’. But you already knew that didn’t you?

:cocktail:

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Will there be beer?

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Another one.

“Make it harder!”

No suggestions how to do so, or why

Do not feed.

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I resubbed because of vanilla and rerolled a few characters to see what I might like to play (there have been so many changes that playing my original mains and alts seems daunting for someone who hasn’t played in 10 years, easier to start with a level 1). Honestly the changes to the graphics are great I love a lot of the quality of life changes, even the changes to questing. OK some of it is too fast and easy (particularly because I have some heirlooms) but overall the regular game experience I don’t mind.

I think not wanting to keep some quality of life changes that people were begging for back in vanilla is short sighted.

No changes is a weird creepy cult but I’m not that bothered one way or another.

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You’re joking right? The way the Classic crowd talks about retail would sound like a compliment compared to how Vanilla WoW was talked about on my server.

WoW was never targeting the EQ crowd (and if it was it failed miserably, thank C’thun for his mercy). It was targeting all the players that were interested in MMOs but didn’t want to play something that was designed only for hard core no-lifers. At no point did the EQ community have any respect for the Vanilla difficulty when I was playing. It was looked at like it was a children’s game. I mean, they were brutal.

You mine as well be saying that BFA was meant to win over Vanilla players with how accurate that statement is.

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Ok. So why do you keep coming to the church demanding alcohol and live bands? GO BACK TO THE BAR!

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Yeah I have no experience at all with EQ because I was in school at the time and didn’t even have a computer good enough to run online games. But I vividly remember a guy in my guild during vanilla who was a huge EQ player and he would complain non stop about WoW in comparison but at the same time there were also a few things he preferred about WoW that he would bring up from time to time. He was sort of a funny salty weirdo with few social skills. I can’t remember what eventually became of him. I don’t believe he stuck around to raid with us but was around through most of the leveling to 60 I think.