#nochanges = #changes

#nochanges = #changes

Nochangers have no idea what Vanilla WoW is without any changes.
They want the first 3 quarters of the game mixed with the last quarter of the game.
Ex, #nochangers want no CRBGs.
Ex, #nochangers want CRBGs.

Prove me wrong.
Prove me right.

#JustMakeWhatWeWant = #nochanges

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Those aren’t people who want no changes. They relaxed that stance when they realized they wanted changes.

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:point_up::panda_face:

So we can officially say that the #nochanges group is dead.

Now its “1.12 vs Frankenpatch” because Blizzard has already said certain game systems will change.

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What about the people that can’t decide if they want #NoChanges or not?

The ones that are like “weeellllll, I’m #NoChanges but I think I want guild banks” is an example.

This is one of my fav gifs lol.
It’s like a conspiracy theorists way of saying
https://gph.is/2L6yKwL
lol

My theory is that it’s mostly an issue pertaining to this forum.

Most people here are probably from retail, and have never played on a private server. At best, most of their memory of how Vanilla was has probably been permanently damaged by years of playing on retail.

I think nochangers are just being fundamentally being extremenely selfish, they want to experience the game exactly how it was, even with it’s flaws instead of being objective about the flaws of the game with the private server crowd that has already played Vanilla and KNOWS about what makes good and bad game design and not, and as such help the game to become better.

It would be better if people listened to the private server players as well as people who played & remember how things were back then. For example, the lack of Fury viability in PvP and the limited R14 system doesn’t benefit anyone in the game, and improving things like that would only improve the longevity of the game for people that enjoy playing it.

They should make it so there is no rank decay and that your progress isn’t tied to other people, that way everyone with a job who can only play for 2 hours a day, can eventually reach R14, provided they put in enough time and effort into it.

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Both those are technically “no changes” from what I understand to be no-changes. The 1.12 literalists are kinda obvious, and there are also the frankenpatch, they’re a little less obvious but are trying to get the full experience rather than just another private server.

It was pretty funny watching all the #nochange people flip flop like a fish just yanked out of the water when 1.12 was announced.

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No changers have always been for stuff that occured during vanilla. Nice try though. How else could we possibly advocate for various changes that occured during vanilla wow?
You have no logic in your statement.

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Don’t care about definitions like those.
Just want as close to authentic vanilla experience that Classic can realistically be from a technical standpoint.

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Guess what farthir? You can have everything you want.

Feral druids scaling better with weapons.
Melee survival hunters.
A pvp system your average person with a job can succeed at.
More balanced classes.

It all exists for you. In battle for azeroth

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This thread is troll garbage. It deserves to be hijacked by YouTube cat videos and random memes.

I’ll start with one that is both.

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It’s either changes or no changes, pick one. You don’t get to redefine no change to mean changes,but only the changes I want, just because blizzard decided to use a version of vanilla you don’t like.

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Well no changes has already lost the battle to progressive change people.
With the whole splitting content up with 1.12 talents/abilities and with holding items.

Basically those people are pre changers not nochangers.
They are also no changes because crbg weren’t in classic battle groups were which is the same but it was more tbc then it was classic.