Yes, I agree.
When the OP fights a decade for his changes, attends Blizzcon every year to fight for his version of WoW, then his points might be valid.
Until then, OP is just trying to piggyback onto the sweat and tears of the people who made Classic possible. And why isnât the OP spewing his drivel in the retail forums. Iâd think it would be more appropriate there.
Why didnât you advocate for these changes before Classic came out? Why all this jumbo mumbo all of the sudden to change Classic?
Oh wait nvm you are just trying to piggyback on the sweat and tears of all those people who made Classic possible in order to push YOUR PERSONAL version of vanillaâŠ
Yeah no Mr. fallacies.
Okay, let me get this straight! You are calling for new content in this Classic+. How do you not think you are going to get a more difficult version of the current retail version of the game? I canât see Blizzard re-creating the WoW wheel here with brand new content that retail has never seen. That would be like Blizzard shooting themselves in the foot if they ever did that. At best you will get the same content of retail and much of which many in the older version of the game want no part of. The QoLâs alone would turn many of the purists away from ever entertaining such a thing. Just look how much people have gone off the rails over âlayeringâ in the past two weeks.
This all sounds nice until you look at the many things in the retail game that turned so many people away because they did not like those changes in the first place. I am not talking about Classic versus retail here, I am talking about Classic versus Classic+ that you are recommending here. I canât imagine BfA in a Classic version being much better than its current form. Especially if the people did not like the content before they ever interacted with the content or despised the content after playing it a few months.
Classic+ in what you are asking for is just really WoW version 2.0. That is what you are asking for here and I am not sure the bulk of Blizzard is on board with such an adventure. What I see Blizzard doing is making future retail expansions content more difficult than previous expansions. Which from a business perspective makes perfect sense than having three separate WoWâs in existence. Not sure at this point Blizzard has enough people to peel off other games to entertain a WoW 2.0. Also at this point, why would Blizzard want to make a whole new MMO when they previously scrap Titan which was thought to be the predecessor to WoW and went an entirely different direction.
I do not think many people like yourself look at things from a business perspective. These pie and the sky ideas cost money and they require a lot of investment of both time and money and unless Blizzard has been working for years to create another MMO, then it will take them years to develop and create another MMO. This not simply taking Classic and slapping another expansion on top of it here that you are talking about. You are talking about new content that is not in the retail version of the game, which makes it an entirely new MMO. Yeah, that at this point in Blizzards current form of games simply not taking place here.
The data says most of these people play on a phone or tablet. Thatâs not comparable to WoW.
Vanilla WoW hasnât been updated since TBC came out, and yet here we are. It doesnât make any sense for Blizzard to fork their codebase to make expansion content for a game theyâve already created expansions for. Retail 2.0 ainât happening, and I cannot understand why you would want it anyway.
End of discussion. Au revoir.
No, the vast majority of OSRS players are playing on PC on clients like runelite rather than their phones.
Classic is a game released a week ago with TONS of small updates, although none content wise. It is not a ânon updatedâ game.
I keep restating this point over and over. Itâs the epitome of hubris and entitlement to behave the way they are. Most of them havenât educated themselves on the history of Classic, and donât know or care about how it came to be here. They just stomp and demand like little kids, being used to having things handed to them if they rage loud and long enough.
#nochanges
yeh but they dont have to redesign the game and make it worst every time a new expansion is released. like BFA every single change was bad. gcd. oh the gcd change. f me
Oh yeah i totally trust nu-blizzard to make new content for Classic. Oh yeah the same guys that made Cata and all the garbage that came after it. You can have your garbage Classic + filled with LFG, LFR, flying mounts and all sorts of other cancer. I want nothing to do with it.
Blizzard hasnât released a good game in over 10 years, donât touch Classic at all.
#NOCHANGESâŠGo play retail if you want an ever changing game, that is not what classic isâŠThat being said if they wanted to add classic+/tbc/wrath server (while leaving the classic servers the f*** alone) I would have no problem with that âŠI wouldnât play them, But I would have no problem with them existing. If they force the classic server over to classic+/tbc/wrath I would unsub immediately wish them luck and move onâŠIf they plan on forcing the server over to them any time in the future I hope they tell us sooner rather then later I would unsub the moment they announce it.
Blizzard has said itâs like a museum piece and that was the point in minimal changes.
They will do it, and laugh at yours and everyoneâs faces because once again.
MONEY.
And i know that no one here will ever go to private, because you guys will furc back to retail, or continue playing on classic with changes.
Its addiction at this rate.
Literal Azerothian Skooma Addiction.
This is patently false, unsubstantiated conjecture.
The changes have been to improve stability and to improve and preserve the classic experience. If anything it proves the devs commitment to as pure a vanilla experience is is possible with a modern client.
#nochanges
Itâs impossible to âdebunkâ someoneâs opinion with your own opinion
Thatâs not grounds for a lawsuit, so they cannot in fact counter-sue.
NoâŠty for your time
I donât know what world you have been living in, but opinions can be and are wrong all the time. Calling it an opinion doesnât insulate it against challenge and debunk.
Yeah Hamon is talking about the recent updates as a hotfix to remove the exp gain bug on running dungeons in a raid. SM was being steamrolled by people in 10 man raids which gave the same exp amounts as a standard 5 man. Thatâs how all the nolifers and pserver people hit 60 before it was fixed. But of course Blizzard didnât delevel them or take away their loot from the MC/Onyxia raids 
what this guy said, opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one.