Blizzard is a company, the âmuseum pieceâ is PR talk. Do you know how corporations work? They make products for profit. If you believe for a second a large corporation is doing something out of the goodness of their hearts, you might as well believe in the tooth fairy.
And yes, the top private server was Nost (before shutdown) with 10k active players. Google is there for you if you do not believe me.
Thatâs semantics. They had 800,000 different users. Theyâre average active population on the server was 6,000-10,000, making more populated than any single blizzard vanilla server ever was.
You know you have to pay to go to most museums right?
Active pop. of Vanilla servers right now is 25,000 - 100,000. Sorry but facts donât care about your feelings.
Also i agree with you! You have to pay to go to museums. Museums thrive on new pieces added to their collection to keep people coming back.
Learn to read you Ben Shapiro wanna be high school debater tool. I wrote vanilla, not classic, learn the difference.
Lol I just heard about this new piece they installed in the Vatican museums called the Sistine Chapel. Supposed to be wild. And thereâs this hot new artist called DaVinci that is supposed to be just LIT.
Comparing the SIstine Chapel which lives off tourism to a online MMORPG that thrives on updates to keep people interested! 10/10 Analogy
Cool⌠So weâre in agreement that the OP is point blank wrong about the population of Nostalrious, and that referring to classic wow as a museum piece is appropriate because itâs in line with how blizzard referred to their own project. You can throw out whatever silly nonsense distractions you want Mr Shapiro, but facts donât care about your feelings, and the OP is using inaccurate statements to make his arguments and thatâs all I was saying.
So I have a question. Where were all you Classic+ people years ago when the current Classic community was patiently and passionately arguing for the game that you are now enjoying and feel you have the right to dump all over with your ill conceived entitlement and complete lack of understanding (and respect) for how and why it got here?
Really? You just confirmed my numbers that the active pop was 6-10k. I didnât even mention 6k, you even determined it was lower in the range.
Blizz is a company, people will unsub as soon as their enjoyment doesnt justify the $15 dollars a month. Refering wow as a museum piece is PR talk to paint Classic in a better light. itâs a cash cow for blizzard. Corporations are solely interested in profits. As soon as the server costs exceed the profits from Classic, itâs game over for the servers.
Perhaps you should read the original post Herky, it seems you havenât.
Classic+ supporters are Classic supporters. They want a future for this game beyond 3-5 years. New content is a good way to achieve that. You seem to be ignorant of basic human nature: people will not continue paying 15$ a month for years redoing the same dungeons, raids, and zones.
You are completely ignorant not only if the project history but the reason Classic is a better game. Itâs barely been out 2 weeks and youâre already filling the forums with this peurile idiocy. 2 weeks.
You donât care about Classic. Even if you got the changes you want (you wonât) youâd be gone back to Retail decrying the game you just ruined as now a worse game in months, and blaming everyone else for it. You and your entitlement are part of the same disease that created the situation that had millions of people playing private servers in the first place.
What you think and want is worth less than nothing where Classic is concerned. Go back to Retail and advocate for your myopic short sighted selfishness there. The community and game you are pushing for are both already there.
Armchair psychologist at work. I wouldnât be posting on this thread if I didnât care about classic. Read the original post, itâs clear you skipped down to the bottom to post your emotionally-charged rant.
Or how about you educate yourself on the history of the project, and how and why it is here. Do you know how it got here?
You didnât answer any of my questions by the way. Where were you?
I played on Nost, Kronos, and Lightâs Hope. I actively supported Classic from the start of the Nost shutdown debacle. Hell, I moderate the Blaumeux Realm discord today. Iâm not sure why you feel the need to try to smear people wanting change in a MMORPG to keep it afloat. Why does new content on a separate server frighten you? Serious question.
Hereâs your serious answer. Let classic wow be classic wow. Let it be what it is, and stand on its own merits. The game is not even a month old, let people play it for what it is, and if it dies 3 years from now because everyone has moved on, so be it. For a literal low budget side project for major game developer, thatâs a huge win. The point of this project was to try and recreate and experience the original version of the game. I really do think blizzard could maybe find itâs old magic by learning from this, and make a brand new MMORPG, whether itâs based in Warcraft or StarCraft, Diablo, or any of their other IP. Blizzard could shake the gaming industry again with something NEW. But they wonât build something new if theyre just trying to tweak a 15 year old platform. Thatâs why Iâm against classic+. When classic dies, it dies, good things can end and thatâs okay. I prefer that to just cash cowing a legendary title with some cheap new dungeons and a raid. Then letâs see blizzard actually challenge itself to be what it used to be, and make something new, and while we wait letâs see how hard classic naxx actually is.
If you did and do all that, you should know better, honestly.
Iâve played Blizzard games since Warcraft 1. The original Diablo is one of my all time favourite games. Itâs certainly top 5. I beta-ed WoW, had the opportunity to play the Alpha briefly (friendâs account), and played the first public demo of it at E3 in 2003.
Over the years Iâve played and watched Blizzardâs fantastic franchises be deconstructed by an ongoing lack of understanding of what made them great games, and the gameplay trivialized by a myriad of business-over-authenticity decisions. Iâve played and watched until I could play no more. Diablo 3 and WoD were the last straws. BfA brought me back for a brief and disappointing stint, and when instead of Diablo 4 we got Diablo Immortal, I used the mobile phone I do have to unsub for the last time, and washed my hands of Blizzard for good. Path of Exile was the main beneficiary of that decision - I recommend it by the way.
I didnât hold out any real hope that Classic would make it, and that if it did it would be a genuine reflection of what Vanilla was. But I signed the petition, and supported and followed its progress. I was fairly happily embedded on Lightâs Hope even though it was in no way an authentic reproduction. But against hope, here Classic is. And itâs not only beautifully authentic, an amazing piece of technical work, and tonally pure, itâs the last game of its kind available anywhere in the industry. I could list why that is true, but Iâm sure you understand, I and others have done all that in other posts.
So now, here we are 2 weeks into the Classic launch and the forum is already glutted with barely literate posts calling for every possible change to the game from a company that has proven over and over again that it not only has no idea why its games were once great, but which actively eats its own children. BfA is modern Blizzard. Diablo 3 is modern Blizzard. Overwatch is modern Blizzard. Diablo Immortal is the clearest example of what Blizzard has become. The company that exists today is not the Blizzard that created and defined genres in the past. That Blizzard no longer exists.
What that means is that - apart from not understanding the inevitable effects of the changes you are calling for - you are trying to encourage and empower a company that has proven over and over again that it canât make a game like Classic anymore, to mess with it. That is how we got Retail. Have you learned nothing from the past 15 years? I have. I suffered through it with everyone else who formed the original Classic community.
Classic is the only game of its type right now. The industry has forgotten how to make games like this. Is it any wonder that those of us defending it defend it passionately.
Blizzard called classic a museum piece.
I cant in good faith say everyone who wants classic + wants classic. Based on some of the changes people have listed that go completely against vanilla, it isnt really an honest claim.
Can you honestly say those who want transmog, flyng, balance changes beyond what made vanilla stand out, actually want classic?
Youâd be hard pressed to find someone who wants flying or transmog, and they do not represent the average Classic+ player. All of us are simply trying to suggest changes to improve the game - itâs up to Blizzard to implement the good ones, and I donât think they want to ruin their core demographic on Classic by making Retail 2.0.
no, i wouldnât be hard pressed to find someone who wants one or the other.
its flawed because 1.2 is pretty much tbcâŚlol.
classic wow isnt the real vanilla experience.