#NOCHANGES 🐒 , Arguments flawed and debunked (SERIOUS)

[Holymirax-ashkandi]

@Eva-blaumeux

Shocktastic, there are tons of vanilla+ supporters making posts and commenting on this very thread.

and very few of them agree with what should be added.
some want new zones. some don’t.
some want the raids and dungeons and bgs that were promised for vanilla added, and only that, and some want entirely new content.
some want quality of life updates and some don’t.
some want balance changes and some don’t.

so if you can’t even agree with each other on what constitutes as “classic +” how can you even say your in agreement.
the only thing you AGREE on is that you want to change classic.

@Eva-blaumeux

I do agree that Blizzard will do what is most profitable, and the most profitable thing is releasing new content to keep sub numbers on Classic+ up

but is it? the cost of developing new content is much higher then just remaking the old content, even blizzard admitted this.
classic bc and classic wrath would have much lower costs to make and thus is a much lower risk.

but ask yourself this - do you really want the same company that designed warlords and battle for azeroth to be producing new content for classic?

@Eva-blaumeux

There’s a reason why tons of pservers are spins on Vanilla and the most Blizzlike Vanilla pservers only hit 10k pop

really? where is these “tons of spins of vanilla, but not vanilla” that are bringing in more subs then nost did?

@Theboys-amanthul

If something like paladin buffs being boosted to 10 or 15 min instead of boody 5!!! were a change. i would welcome that

good news. greater blessings are already in the game when you hit higher levels.

@Eva-blaumeux

I’m sorry Classic+ scares you so much, though I’m not sure why. Blizz will likely keep the true vanilla server up no matter what, even if Classic+ is adopted

except i’ve literally seen some of you pro classic+ people say all servers should be changed to classic +, so again, you can’t even agree with each other.

@Eva-blaumeux

Yes… but Classic+ will be a separate server from Vanilla, TBC, or maybe even Wrath

again you’re making claims you can’t actually back up. can you 100% promise it will be a separate sub? they didn’t even go with a separate sub for classic from retail and you claim that classic+ will be a separate sub?

@Hamon-grobbulus

Making separate TBC and Wrath servers would kill the vanilla classic community ESPECIALLY if there was no ‘classic+’

retail players made this same claim about classic, and i didn’t believe them, so why should i believe you?

@Hamon-grobbulus

WoW has a subscription because it’s supposed to be an ever updated game,

from the very beginning they have advertised it as “an authentic vanilla wow remake” and a “museum piece”. hardly an ever updating game you claim.[quote=“Hamon-grobbulus, post:277, topic:288617”]
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which when you have content based on flying like bc and wrath did, isn’t a problem. but when you remove designing content around flying, is not such a big deal.

@Hamon-grobbulus

-Class homogenization

bc no, wrath yes.

@Hamon-grobbulus

-Completely killed wpvp

world pvp was already mostly dead due to battlegrounds.

@Hamon-grobbulus

-Invalidated all previous content

thats why you have seperate servers. on classic vanilla servers there is no bc. therefore classic vanilla is not invalidated.

@Hamon-grobbulus

-Massively increased lvling XP, truly pushing the ‘game starts at max lvl’ retail mentality.

depends what patch of BC you go with.

@Hamon-grobbulus

-Daily quests aka mobile game tier manipulative design meant to make you feel obligated to log in everyday by making you feel like you were at a disadvantage if you didn’t,

you mean like classic does with various daily cool-downs from professions and the like? and it doesn’t force you to log in, just rewards you for doing so.

@Hamon-grobbulus

-Removing elements that make it feel like an mmoRPG. Want to use that super high lvl enchant for a low lvl character? Too bad, you cant. Want to use old potions with semi overpowered effects at high lvl? Too bad, they magically don’t work anymore.

burning crusade did no such thing.