@furrfist since its quite apparent you’re just trolling on my ignore list you go.
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ya man they gotta have the classes be “non binary” to other races. Why not have night elf-humans that are shamans? we already got tranni dragons with mental illness
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that escalated quickly.
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its true though. You can see that crap slowly slipping in with that majordomo dragon. That garbage needs to go away
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Ma’am, this is a Warcraft forum. Go whine about your paranoid delusions somewhere else. Yawn.
which is sad… it used to be about making amazing games… they understood if they did that the money would follow. now it seems as if they’re just trying to keep the game breathing.
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Maybe if you cared enough about the Lore to point out the idiotic story for the last decade maybe we wouldn’t be in the predicament…
Not sure if that really fits here, since most, if not all, of the original devs for Warcraft and WoW don’t work on it anymore. It kind of reminds me more of Amazon adapting Tolkien or Disney with Star Wars and Marvel.
I really think LF draenei getting DK and warlock BEFORE they get shaman(WHICH THEY SHOULD’VE LAUNCHED WITH) really is just rubbing salt in the wound.
Just another slap in the face.
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Eventually.
If we don’t put up some resistance it’s only getting worse.
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Shamans would just be if not more of a slap. Lightforged are devoted to the light. Not the Elements or their Ancestors.
At least for warlocks you could somehow spin it around and say they are forcing said Demons to do the Lights bidding since they arent infused with Fel like Demon Hunters are. Or said Demons are willing to fight alongside a being of light just as there were Demons that willingly decided to turn against the Legion.
And Azerothian Elementals arent exactly known to accept that they are somewhat lesser (even though they all are) because of Azeroth turning them erratic and chaotic.
There’s two ways to look at that, and neither is the glowing endorsement you think it is.
On the one hand, Metzen also thought weighing down MoP’s story with an anti-war theme was a good idea. Metzen also thought the only logical resolution to Garrosh Hellscream was to throw him under the bus. Metzen also thought that the atrocious RP scene after Deathbringer Saurfang (on Alliance side) was a good idea. Metzen also signed off on creating new characters in Cataclysm only to kill them off (Liam Greymane, Caelestrasz).
On the other hand, being an advisor or consultant doesn’t really mean much by itself. It could very much be like one of those movies that boast they have {insert reputable person} as a military/medieval/history/whatever consultant, only to essentially pay them for the ability to list their name in the credits and ignore all feedback offered.
What drove people away during Cata fell more on content tuning and some of the changes to class design (there were people that dislike what was done to Ret going into Cata, for one). People here were celebrating “heroics being hard again” then wondered by queues were drying up as the good healers and tanks started running in guild-only groups (which I predicted was going to happen after people started asking for ‘harder’ heroics during late Wrath).
With this in mind, new class-race combos were minuscule potatoes next to the issues Cata had, on top of there being reasonable explanations for those new combos…for the most part. Dwarves got shaman because the Wildhammers were being brought into the fold. Tauren paladins had that druid during Wrath alluding to them (sort of). Human hunters were something that should have existed all along. Same with Blood Elf warriors. Note how none of these are lore-offensive. The only one that raised an eyebrow was gnome priests, and I honestly have never seen any attempt to explain their existence; people just don’t care about gnomes, so it sort of flew under the radar.
While I agree with you, it would be remiss of me to not point out how badly majordomo whatshisname was written. And voice acted. Aside from the terrible dialogue (or his complete non-answer for why he chose his visage to be a vulpera), I get the impression the voice cast director told the VA to perpetually sound annoyed when doing those lines. I mean, being the majordomo to the queen of dragons is probably a very stressful job, but that line delivery made me think of those sitcom snarky secretary/assistant/bartender characters. I half expect a laugh track to start playing during the Ruby Life Pools.
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What I meant is that for anyone who thinks that this is nuBlizzard ruining the old lore as put forth by the grandfathers of Blizzard, Metzen himself included. So this, presumably, is a decision that Metzen okay’d, the guy who okay’d the Draenei retcon that saw a lot of controversy back in the day, the same guy who made the Orcs of WC2 into the Orcs of WC3. So it’s really not as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.
Warcraft has always had an anti-war message since WC3 btw. MOP just carried on that tradition.
With this logic, you can turn every class(except pala/priest) away from them.
“Lightforged are devoted to the light. Not the Arcane or Frost/Fire magic.”
Bye-bye LF mages…
Mages just use the Arcane. They arent devoted to it. They are just skilled in using this particular cosmic force. Or parts of it since not every mage is capable of wielding the entirety of the Arcane power or just excels in one of them like Jaina does.
I’ll point to the other part of my reply. It might be entirely just to say “hey guys, we got Chris Metzen back!” while ignoring everything he says and suggests. It wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened.
Here’s a hot take: they were only mad because they wanted a dark, deformed race and we instead got barrel-chest guys and the waggle. Seeing how beloved the waggle is, this was fine.
Considering Warcraft III was an exercise in rehabilitating the orcs and almost everyone took to it (I’ve yet to see anyone complain that they miss the knock-off warhammer orcs), this isn’t much of a point. Specially since it involves a) a bunch of stuff no one knew about and b) a time skip that made it at least somewhat plausible.
There’s a difference between “two sides must put their differences aside to defeat something bigger” and “war is bad guys; we’ll add a boogeyman that is summoned when you fight, make you feel bad in the Jade Forest and then have Taran Zhu yell at you like an angry dad”.