Go back to classic wow. #bye
Poll for children
What do you want for dinner
- Ice cream
- Vegetables
Results in
- 99%
- 1% (one of the kids hit the wrong button)
Does that make ice cream a good dinner? Nope.
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Okay but TBC wasn’t designed to ‘not have dual spec’, it’s a game that was designed to be improved upon. Asking for quality of life features can be really useful for players and it was really welcomed and enjoyed once it was finally implemented. Don’t use it if you want the authentic experience. Honestly I wouldn’t mind if every warrior and paladin had a tank off spec good to go at any given time
and if you think dual spec wouldnt lose even more players in addition to the ones that have already been lost, pass what you’re smoking
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So, giving people an option to switch specs to meet the needs of the other players who are online at the moment would cause players to quit?
It would solve the perpetual “LF1M HEALS” & “LF1M TANK” issue on Classic.
Because god forbid we actually have fun playing a game + not have yet another time sink in a game that’s already loaded to the brim with time sinks. Yeah, gotta work for that loot - grind away and invest hundreds of hours to get some meager reward. You know, sense of accomplishment and achievement … on a 15 year old game.
Man. If I’m going to time sink and spend hundreds of hours on anything - it’s going to be grinding away on my reputation … with a 175 year old corporation.
If you didn’t get the hint - that’s work.
I want to play a game when I log into WoW. I don’t want to work. I work at work - not on WoW.
But ya know, maybe you don’t have these kind of problems - like … working in the day … to where you don’t want to put in 8 hours a night of gameplay to get a stupid piece of digital loot.
Are you seriously going to sit here and pretend that more people would quit the game because they no longer have to schedule their arena games like they’re raids, lest they face a 100g penalty every time they want some casual arena games?
rofl
putting a wrath feature in TBC would cause some players to quit because they wanted to play TBC, not this frankengame beta we’re getting. it sure wouldnt gain any players that arent already playing so there’d be nothing to offset the losses of people who actually wanted TBC and not Wrath Crusade.
it didnt when it was implemented the first time, maybe it helped a smidge, but there were still long queues in LFD (which you probably want as well) and long waits before that.
sounds like you dont like TBC, might i suggest not playing or going back to retail?
oh my god you have a job, i bet no one else on classic TBC does…
either you thought you did but you didnt, or you just didnt think you did in the first place.
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yes more people would quit the game because of adding in a wrath feature ( ?>0) than would bring new players to the game (0). 0 - (?>0) = net loss
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You forgot the fact that he is entitled to complete all the content of the game - even with a job. Not being able to do so as fast as everyone else is killing his enjoyment of the game. Everyone needs to get a prize … get with the program. /sarcasm
Most of us have jobs (heck I study and work full time), but some of us don’t feel like we are entitled to be first to complete everything regardless of how small our time investment.
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I agree with the underlying issue of game improvements. I just happen to disagree with your assessement that dual-spec in Burning Crusade would be an improvement. It might be a ‘convenience’, but it negatively affects the overall game (imho).
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yes, it’s too much like retail.
if you don’t get it, it’s probably because you belong on retail
old MMOs by design require what you call “work”. if you don’t like it, go to retail
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People like to talk about options, so here’s one. If you want Retail conveniences, then play Retail. You have that option.
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Actually the design of the game changed drastically from tbc from when they put dual spec in.
Class balance became “bring the player not the class” which means classes were made similar. Strengths were toned down, weaknesses made less weak. As an example a lot of classes that didn’t have an interest got one, classes that didn’t have hard CC got hard CC, classes that didn’t have self heals got it, and a lot of the specialization abilities went baseline.
Now the content changed a lot as well. Gone were the death marches of heroic dungeonsbin tbc where CC, interrupts, line of sight pulling casters, exc. Were important. Now we had wrath heroics, the aoe fest run through the dungeon with little to no communic a tion, no CC targets, interrupts were mostly optional, and group comp wasn’t important.
These changes came in wrath and are what made dual spec not nearly as harmful to the game, because outside of tank and healing spec, your spec didn’t matter, heck death knights were viable tanks in any of their 3 specs for most of wrath. When dual spec was added spec identity was more cosmetic than functionality for most dps specs, and even priests 2 healer specs were made to be able to handle their other roles (aoe holy, single target disk) better. Wrath brought with it the virtual removal of class/spec weaknesses and you were just a dps healer or tank and everything else was more cosmetic than anything else. Choice in spec didn’t matter as much because so much was added to the base classes that choice in spec was heavily flavor instead of function. (Yea there was still min max X spec is the best dps, but utility wise, debuff wise, buff wise, exc it didn’t matter. The design had moved away from complimenting classes with other classes to just bring the player.)
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I like the spec identity. I like how my hero feels unique. I like how my choices matter. I don’t really care. The other stuff they added seemed like fixes to player made problems.
The boosting was there to get retail players in, because of arenas yo. TBC had its leveling era 1- 60 in wow classic pre patch.
It wouldn’t really matter to me, I’d stay the same spec except when doing a raid, because parses yo. Heroics are easy enough for me I can PvP spec them. I’d rather have respecs costs decay faster, weekly.
Now, now, don’t ask the entitled mouth breathers to think logically about this, it’s all about them and their QoL!1!!1SHIFT+ONE
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Exactly. We dealt with it. Dual spec came due to player demand back then.
It’ll probably come sooner this time around. Deal with it.
Yes the QoL dual spec brings certainly degrades the game. Once I finish getting my paid boost to 70 by afking at the entrance of a dungeon, while a level 70 kills everything for me, I will gladly pay the 50g/week to assist keeping the integrity of this game.
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Personally I don’t want duel spec because if they did it, the first thing I’d do is immediately set my second spec to pure PVP. Imagine trying to farm when the world only has people in their optimal PVP specs all the time everywhere, aff locks and frost mages, sub rogues.
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Even though you’re the expert on nonsense. In this, as in most things, you are wrong.
Wait, so your argument against something is that, if you given it you would readily use it?
