No, We Don't All Want Dual-Spec Added to BC

Ay bro… You’re sending mixed messages here.

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If you think duel spec is a qualifying factor to the deference’s between classic and retail then I hope you aren’t allowed to have an opinion on either of the games.

Deference’s? You mean differences?

Honestly it isn’t, because dual talent isn’t in retail either.

That said, the ability to freely switch between talents IS an aspect of retail, and is a difference that only started in Lich King, an expansion yet to come out in the classic pipeline.

So go ahead and try to smooth brain say

Because you’re too much of an inbred mouthbreather to make any readable point.

Seriously, you said Dual Spec should have came out with TBC, then turned around and said for others to go play retail.

I hate to break it to you, but I think you should stay on your Dark Iron Dwarf in retail mate.

Yes, clearly dual spec is the sole difference between TBC Classic and retail.

Ay bro the Classic Andys are now TBC Andys.

Tbh, I wish they all stayed in classic jerking off with their world buffs.

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No, there are lots of other horrible ideas that ruined retail along with dual spec.

So you are incapable of forming a more nuanced opinion than retail bad and classic perfect.

Imma keep it real, I feel like dual specialization was the least of the problems that started in LK. I feel like achievements added more problems than dual spec did because that’s when “link X” became a thing and allowed for more gatekeeping alongside the player made gearscore.

As far as Blizz making it worse, heirlooms and LFD was the start of retails problems imo.

Letting players have 2 spec’s was the literal least concern of LK and it’s introduction to modern wow.

That said, I don’t want TBC to have dual spec, but, to blame dual spec on the failure of retail is a B I G stretch.

Dual spec’s impact on the game is just one part of the equation. Its effect on player mentality, the design of the game, the identity of the experience is just as important, if not moreso. To simply cave in and say ‘Choices don’t matter. Play perfectly optimally in every situation, in every aspect of the game with no regard to making any kind of sacrifice or commitment to your character’ fundamentally changes how TBC was meant to be played. And there’s no reason for players to expect this other than…this is the way Retail has been for years. But that has nothing to do with Classic.

And for what? I’ve seen people saying it’ll help with tank shortage. That’s nonsense. Go read the Shadowlands forums. Players complain about a lack of tanks every day. And that’s in a game where there’s…6? tank classes. Where you can change your spec at any time. And still there’s no tanks. A tank shortage is not a dual spec issue; it’s an issue of the fact people don’t like to tank. And a dual spec isn’t going to change that. But what it will do is enable players to play the perfect spec for any scenario. Suddenly every class you meet in pvp is the exact same spec. Every class you see in a dungeon or raid, or out in the world farming is the exact same spec. No more making a choice and excelling at one part of the game or the other. And for people saying, ‘Players just spend 50 gold and respec and that happens anyway’ are only demonstrating how dual spec isn’t needed.

TBC is TBC. Maybe simply appreciate it for what it is and have fun and enjoy the game. I know that sounds absolutely crazy in an era when players seemingly exist to complain. But people should give it a shot.

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because no one can run any dungeons because it cost 100g to do them unless you are a tank who most likely doesnt need them anymore and has a crew most likely

your lack of imagination is painful

As someone who actually teaches 5 and 6 year olds, the aforementioned players in your comparison would be 10 year olds. The 5 year olds would be the people complaining about either of these groups doing what they’re doing.

I.E. Your side.

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It amazes me that “nochanges” people still exist and are still crying “nochanges” despite the fact that there have been 100+ changes so far.

“wahh stop complaining stop wanting to improve things, just shut up and enjoy yourself”

No.

no it doesn’t.

It allows for a second talent configuration to be assigned, that you can freely swap between.

However, if you want to change either of your now locked in Talents, you still have to pay for it.

it would reduce how much people need to respecc.

this “it’s already not pure, so let’s go ahead and destroy it completely” mindset is very childish. :expressionless:

This is what mental illness looks like: People obsessed with their video game identity.

Let players play whoever they want to play. Dual Spec would allow players to actually enjoy the game they subscribe to. This is not a bad thing in any scenario you could present.

It’s showcasing how much it IS needed, as players don’t want to have to continually spend gold just to be able to play their class in different scenarios.

Your side is the side complaining that other players want to be able to play the game with more available options. This #nochanges nonsense is exactly that. Nonsense.

you realize this is a role-playing game, right? :roll_eyes:

If u don’t want it then don’t use it.

we won’t use it. because it’s not in the game, and won’t be until wrath. thanks

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There is a significant difference between working at a Ren Fair, and going grocery shopping in your costume, still in character. Being obsessed with their video game identity is the latter, not the former.