I can understand that, however, It would have been nice if they had just locked the thread and stated that rather than deleting it entirely. Not to mention this whole situation could have been avoided had we just received a blue post addressing the issue to begin with.
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Yes it’s customary to lock threads that go off the rails. Even though I didn’t support the idea I have to say it didn’t go off the rails, it remained civil compared to most other topics on here.
I can only imagine, as you say, it was the link to an external petition, but even that doesn’t seem like a CoC violation. I posted in that thread, and yet my history has been backwards edited to make it look like it never even existed. Very poor if this was done by Blizzard. I’m not very savvy, if the OP deleted their OP, does it delete all responses too? If so, I still don’t see why Shimy would delete his cause from the forums, but only he can answer that.
There are threads on here full of absolute bile and hatred and they’ve only been locked, not deleted. A blue even posted a joke response to a troll thread that violated the CoC. What’s going on?!?!
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I am new to the forums too so I can’t say I know how it works when a post is deleted but I too am missing all of my history from that forum. This to me does not feel like something Shimy would do willingly or at all, but I can not say for certain. As you stated this is going to reflect very poorly on Blizzard if they did this purposefully.
I could see this potentially being a result from the petition, however, as we have said it doesn’t seem like a CoC violation and why not just lock the thread it if it is, why purge it from existence?
It may sound funny but all those comments on the Megathread about this being an issue cover up by Blizzard are suddenly seeming real.
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That is really, really upsetting. Blizzard have outright said they want to hear our feedback on Classic and I have spent weeks on this forum doing exactly that. I didn’t do it for my health, and I didn’t do it because I enjoyed it. Like you said, regardless of whether we agree or not we should be allowed to state our opinions.
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That is exactly how I feel too, I thought that the forums were a place I could share my opinions and feedback on the issues of the game they are trying to bring me back to after almost a decade of absence. Much like you I have sunk a lot of time and energy into that forum in the hopes it would spark change or at the very least recognition from Blizzard. For them to purge their intended customers opinions and feedback on decisions they have made reflects very poorly on them as a company.
That is ridiculous! Measuring interest in an issue is feedback! If there isn’t anything on the forum rules that disallows petitions they have done us a wrong here, and even then you’d think they’d lock the thread and tell us why.
People keep saying they’ve been listening to us when it comes to classic but my excitement for a project that I’ve been waiting for for 10 years has never been as low as it is right now.
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You asked for classic. You get what you get and dont throw a fit
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I agree censorship of a thread that was in the correct forums and which was civil should not be deleted. Locking would have been sufficient and even then there didn’t seem to be any CoC violation. Even when there is, they usually just lock said thread.
There’s a thread on here I posted in a ridiculous amount. It’s on the wrong forums, it’s trolling and it’s spam. I’ve asked for it to be locked. I wouldn’t even advocate deleting that thread, and I detest the idea the thread stands for. Why? Because it shows feedback from over 500 posts. Granted, 99% disagree with the OP, but it’s visible feedback and should be available for the community to see, whether the OP is dismissed, agreed with or if it’s a debate.
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I too poured good energy into that thread, hoping for a change. ![:frowning:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/frowning.png?v=6" ":frowning:")
I just wish Blizzard focused on the feedback and not delete it outright.
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It is absolutely baffling. It was a calm thread and on-topic by any measure, and hardly a controversial topic at that. How could mounts offend them this much?
Someone has to make a new thread. Petition or not, this needs to be discussed now more than ever.
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Well there are a few forums about this topic still in existence. However, I do agree with you we should make another centralized forum much like that one. You are right this issue needs to be addressed now more than ever especially after this whole situation.
I am still hoping Shimy will have some insight as to what happened to give us a better overall understanding.
I didn’t support the idea and I’ve been extremely blunt with anyone who has posted more radical change ideas on these forums, and even I think it’s disgusting to delete a thread that big, especially when no clear COC violation was made and when, compared with all other threads on this forum, it was downright civil.
That thread had a huge amount of community involvement. Now how on earth is anyone who is curious about that subject, supposed to gauge the general consensus of the community on that point?
At least in a locked thread you can go through it and say ok, 1,300 posts, 1,100 against the idea, 200 in favour. This mounts issue seemed to be very much a grey area with no predominant camp, and now both sides have to go through it all again and those who are in favour are put out of their way to start it all from scratch.
I’ll go a step further and say that I UNDERSTAND this issue, the mounts being an issue involving multiple versions of the 1.x patches, so I think that the topic DOES belong here and SHOULD be discussed. I think it’s disgusting when threads asking for things like CATACLYSM transmogs, don’t even get locked, yet genuine, actual Classic discussion threads get fully deleted.
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Hopefully Shimy or someone will shed some light on what has happened in the next 24 hours. I don’t know if contacting support would yield any answers or not, I assume not. It would really reflect poorly on Blizzard if they did this purposefully, so here’s to hoping it was an accident/bug and the forum is reinstated. If we don’t hear anything then we will probably need to find/make a new megathread on this issue. Starting from scratch is never easy but we have a solid foundation and supporters.
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Should be able to Google the original petition. I daren’t post it in case I get banned. Would be nice to hear from a blue what’s going on? Even if they did delete it, I think it’s morally wrong to remove a thread that had so much engagement and which was the go-to thread on that subject.
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Could something like this happen if he was banned or something? Do they purge all your threads?
I have the link to the petition saved but as you stated:
At least until we get some questions answered. I find it ironic as people in that forum stated their threads were shut down for not posting in the megathread to begin with as Blizzard likes to try to consolidate issues. So why would they shut down the big go-to thread on that issue/subject.
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I’ve seen one other thread fully deleted this week (and that thread was awful and did deserve to be locked but I’d say it should have been left here because it was a textbook example of something the community didn’t agree with) and the person did vanish, but they reappeared again today in another thread, so if they were banned, it was only for 48 hours or so. That person was flagged for trolling, A LOT. They’re still here.
That said, even though I was against the idea, I read most of the posts in the mount thread. I didn’t see Shimy say anything out of turn and he didn’t even let himself get baited into being uncivil once.
By deleting the go to thread on the subject, they’re actually forcing the pro-mounts people to create ANOTHER thread on the subject. Whilst usually a CoC violation, I’d argue it can’t be considered one in an instance were the main thread has vanished without explanation or apparent sound justification.
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To be honest with you Seid I am very new to the forums. I have been away from WoW for almost a decade and never touched the forums before, but this issue sparked me enough to try it for once.
I have had the same thoughts that perhaps his account was banned/deleted or his character Shimy was banned/deleted. I do not know how the forums respond to something like that. I know Shimy has experienced temporary bans from the forums in the past and perhaps he pushed it too far and lost his account and this was part of it. It would still be very poor on Blizzard’s part if the forum was removed for this reason though since it was the go-to thread.
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Hmm…I didn’t know that about him. Maybe if you are banned it does hide your posts then. I would have assumed though that it would have simply greyed out his original post and left all the respondent posts in place, that’s just an assumption though, these new forums baffle me. If banning someone hides their entire thread, then by banning one person, they’ve silenced hundreds who might not have been in breach of the CoC. Again I’d have assumed a lock would have therefore been better for all. This way, everyone has been banned and silenced on that topic, not just Shimy, even me. I can’t even find my trust level, or anyone elses.
When he would be temporarily banned he just was not allowed to post anything new comments or otherwise for a certain time frame. His old comments were still visible though. He had mentioned it a couple of times in the megathread. Due to the fact the entire thread was not removed temporarily, or locked, during those times I have a hard time fully accepting this is the reason for the threads disappearance now.
As for the trust level, I contacted support about it one day and they gave me this:
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