Stop being obtuse. You’re deliberately ignoring how the system will actually work so you can spread this FUD about the tower having a timer instead of just later floors where you should have additional difficulties added.
Mobs can respawn in raids. Also, raid bosses need a heck of a lot more than just waiting on cooldowns. Also? You’re going to be in a raid sitting there with 9-24 other people.
It’s like you’re deliberately missing the point so you can keep arguing.
Enough that if you’re moving through at a normal pace you won’t even get close to it, but if you stop for every cd between pulls you’ll be hitting it.
You’re joking right? Just to be clear, are you telling me this isn’t a soft enrage? And are you saying that a soft enrage… isn’t a timer? It’s still a timer… just not a fixed one.
Really? I’d say the same of you.
Again, it all comes down to the overall feel of the content. An overall timer promotes a feeling of urgency THROUGHOUT the experience. A region specific intra-fight timers, promote feelings of urgency partitioned into their regions. It isn’t an overall sense of urgency. Those are subtle, but different feelings.
I’m done here. It’s become clear to me that you are not arguing in good faith. You’re posting to be angry about something.
Specifics please. What EXACT timer is on the content.
Hey I’m not the one arguing that a soft enrage isn’t still AN ENRAGE…
I’m not saying that. That’s something you made up and stuffed into my mouth. Now I really am done here until you apologize for your antics.
Depends on the expected clear time of each floor, and that’s not finalized yet. If it takes a normal person, not rushing, picking up every chest, killing every mob, 30 minutes to clear the floor, maybe a 50 minute timer.
Made up numbers obviously, they’re not expecting people to spend hours in there.
And that’s not even a point you die or anything, just when they start sending things to move you along.
What antics?
I’ve explained my position thoroughly. You’re the one insisting that I’m somehow hysterical…
One persons expected clear time is not another persons expected clear time.
We want content where the point of the content and the rewards tied too it are solely linked on if you got that content done.
NOT if you got that content done in what some guys says should be the average amount of time.
People want content they can do, in which they can once again pull a fast afk and shoot to the bathroom, or get up and grab a slice of pizza while playing and not have it be the end of the friggen world!
Then remove the power rewards, only way it works without a timer. I won’t do it then, but it’s the only way.
1 bloodlust per floor.
And if people want to wait for personal cooldowns between packs let them.
Just like your boss example you have your cooldowns.
If people wait for their cooldowns then the content has to be balanced around those people, that’s the point you’re not getting.
I don’t want my content balanced around people who wait 3-5 minutes between every pull.
WHY must rewards now always be linked to TIMERS?
There does not need to be a link…could you please get that out of your brain right now.
See and this is the problem. You see the same thing in M+. What takes me 30 minutes in a +15, takes another person 60 minutes. It’s all on a shifting scale. What you’re asking for is more content that has an infinite difficulty scale, where eventually EVERYONE will hit the point that they have a sense of urgency to clear the content.
Say floor map A has been deemed that a “normal pace” is to clear the floor in 30 minutes and its soft enrage (let’s make it obscene) is 2 hours.
Now if you saw Map A at level 1, you’d probably trounce the floor right? That’s like a normal dungeon. So it takes you 5 minutes.
How about Map A at level 5? Probably still fine… Heroic dungeon… 10 minutes.
Level 10? 20 minutes.
Level 30? 30 minutes.
Level 40? 1 hour.
Level 50? 2 hours.
Level 51? What happens here? Because THIS… This is where I’ll be playing. And at THIS point… I’m going to be feeling exactly what I’m describing. Urgency.
If you want to create it so that regions within the maps have sectioned off urgency? Fair enough. You want the entire tower to eventually turn into another version of M+… I’m freaking out.
High end rewards have been linked to timers for YEARS.
It’s specifically to prevent degenerate gameplay.
No timers, for the old timers LOL
The original intent was to balance it around people who did not want timers. And if you don’t like that, don’t do the tower…just like I don’t do mythic plus.
Except this is currently the main focus of the expansion, you have to do it, if you don’t you don’t get access to legendaries.
People who wait the minimal minute or 2 (by the time combat has ended) get to go slightly farther than people who don’t.