No, seriously, we REALLY don't all want Dual Spec in TBC

It’s a good argument for adding it in WOTLKC because it clarifies the way in which they purposefully implemented in in WOTLK.

You think they took the “latter half” of TBC to design the feature?

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By the way, you’ve mentioned this a whole lot.

What even is this?

Wrath of the Lich King Classic, I feel like this wouldn’t be hard for most regular WoW players to put together, I’m beginning to understand why all your perspectives are elementary. You must be a pretty new player.

Hmm, I’ve done a quick search. Cannot find anything about “Wrath of the Lich King Classic” at all. Did Blizzard officially announce this?

Well you better hope it’s coming if you wanna experience dual spec.

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Well, I never mentioned it was coming either way. You did, even though Blizzard never announced it. Why would you mention something that doesn’t exist?

Nethaera: When can players expect to try out dual specs?
Ghostcrawler: Players will be able to try out the dual spec system on the Public Test Realms when they are made available. This has been a pretty big project with a lot of people working toward making it a reality in the game. We’ll definitely be watching the feedback and looking for ways of making sure the system works the way we all envisioned it to.

It was first mentioned at the World Wide Invitational, which was in June of 2008. If they mentioned it then, that’s because it was already in development to some degree. At the very least, it was in development 5 months before WoTLK.

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Probably at the most judging by the words.

If you wanna have dual spec 5-6 months before WOTLKC/End of TBCC I’m OK with that.

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Keeps on mentioning something that doesn’t exist.

:thinking:

What…? It’s a concept. Concepts can exist without your permission.

Not sure what this has to do with anything I said.

Was just pointing out how you keep on referring to something that doesn’t exist.

It’s arbitrary, just because Blizzard hasn’t announced a WOTLKC doesn’t mean everybody (other than poor you) become confused by the acronym/phrase or fail to understand what it means/implies.

This seems to be what you do, non-stop semantic BS that has nothing to do with the point, you’re half the reason these threads drag on longer than they should, because you’re stuck arguing about how someone worded something when it has nothing to do with their actual point or it’s obvious what they mean, as everyone watches you in disbelief make an absolute fool of yourself.

I mean plenty of people have shared enough of your asinine posting history to make clear that you have no honest intentions in these threads, but damn is it ever a car fire to watch you work your pristine intellect in these debates.

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No, you explained what it means. I’m just pointing out how you’re predicating a lot of things on something that doesn’t exist and hasn’t even been announced.

Ok buddy.

Why don’t you stick to insulting people’s opinion and saying their input isn’t valid because they’re on a retail character/alt even though you boosted. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Well, there’s only one boost per account. Not sure how I did that on Kuma since I already used it on another character whom I’ve hardly played.

Maybe you can explain how I did that. :grin:

I have never seen a post advocating for this. You are presenting a straw man. Retail WOW is almost universally disparaged in this forum community, even by those who advocate for dual specializations.

Haha. Obviously, “better” and “worse” aren’t meaningless, they just depend on one’s values. To me, “better” in regards to TBCC means more players engaging with more content to create a more vibrant community and have more fun doing so. I believe that adding dual specializations, or even just reducing or removing the respecialization cost, is a change that would make TBCC better. I think it’s telling that many private servers, which also aim to stay as true to TBC as possible, have implemented reduced respecialization costs. Some people agree with (more or less) what I see as better for TBCC, but disagree that dual specializations would actually make TBCC better. I’d love to hear more from people with this perspective.

To you, at least based on this post, it seems “better” with regards to TBCC means as different from retail WOW as possible. I believe this view lacks nuance. Yes, I agree that retail WOW is an undesirable product and I much prefer the experience TBCC has to offer. That doesn’t automatically mean that implementing this change from retail will worsen TBCC, at least according to my values. And I strongly disagree that changing this will open the floodgates for all changes from retail WOW, considering how unpopular most of those features are.

We are already on an (almost) identical path as the one that original vanilla took. With every patch and every expansion, we get closer to retail WOW. I believe it’s up to us, the players, to advocate for the good changes and against the bad ones, along the way.

In regards to other people’s posts, I think it is mostly irrelevant when the developers wanted to implement dual specs and what their rationale was. To me the question is: will it make our game, TBCC in 2021, better?

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No they don’t. Now that I’ve straightened you out, feel free to thank me.

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Numbers say otherwise.

Now, level your shaman.

Is the irony here lost on you? You just inadvertently claimed most people are fine with the huge number of changes we have in TBC Classic. They’re fine with boosts, Arena changes and everything in-between. They’ll be fine with Dual Spec too.

This would solve so many issues we’re having currently. :snickers: Awful idea, but damn if it wouldn’t solve a problem on our end!