I guess at the very least, we’ll find out when dual spec is introduced during WotLK Classic.
Nah. Will be back to private servers before TBC even finishes. A sweaty neckbard in his basement can make a successful TBC private server better then what we got. Plus don’t need to give Activision anymore money.
“More players”. See what I said above, where we’d maybe have tanks for a few weeks, and then what? They got what they needed and have dipped.
The only real positive I could see coming from dual spec would be an increase in the pvp population, and even then, it wouldn’t be enough to save the pvp scene.
Not really. People make alts, or gold farm, or rep farm, or do whatever. This ideology is what lead to the tons of chores in retail, where players don’t play the mains, but now retail is “alt unfriendly”. There is no pleasing.
Then don’t do it.
Obviously you need to if you state that.
Yeah, maybe for 3 weeks until they don’t need the content, then go respec into pvp and sit in bgs, then all the tanks are gone and the pvp scene is prolonged for another 6 months.
cope.
Then leave now. Pretty sure you can find a pserver with dual spec.
Give this man the gold medal for metal gymnastics.
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Funny how you say that, but don’t provide any context to where that can be applied, or provide atleast any support for your ideas from previously seen expansions.
Crazy. Cope more.
Mental*
It’s so tedious trying to have a conversation with people who don’t bother or lack the ability to read. I very specifically stated time and time again that the difficulty in finding groups was for dps alts. I was careful to do that because I expect people to be stupid. Yet even carefully saying “dps alts” every time you’ve been able to exceed that expectation.
Because hes a troll just trying to bait for replies. Now that I have gone through the earlier replies it’s easy to tell.
Oh no, I missed 2 words out of the last hour of conversation. I must be a homie with an extra chromie.
That said, you understand that the 20-40 minute LFD queues was with:
1: Dual spec
2: Cross Server
3: Instant group formation
4: Multiple Instances
5: Teleportation
6: Provided a currency that bought heirlooms for faster leveling of alts.
All of that still resulted in a tank shortage.
You think that only dual spec will solve the issue? Pure copium.
No, I’m not, you’re just mad I’m not bruising my knees for you.
“troll” said by the man on an alt toon lol.
I was very careful to never say dual spec would solve the issue. I’ve been in these threads long enough to know what stupid things people will say so I was careful I was never sloppy in my wording and always said something like add tanks and healers and lessen the queue times. You don’t bother to read. This is why it’s so tedious to talk to you and I would ignore you if I didn’t want to bump the thread. Bumping the thread is the only reason I’m still talking to you.
Doesn’t matter. The entire thread is about dual spec. Your own quote, about small improvements will whatever is alluding to the entire premise that dual spec will solve, or atleast benefit of the doubt for you, lighten the problem.
I’m saying it may for a few weeks, and then the entire problem would be back to how it was.
You can dance around and do some trash tier word play to not be caught in a “gotcha”, but it’s moot because of what this thread and conversation is about. Dancing around the point only makes you a coward, and now you’re trying to slide out on some intellectual high ground gotcha on me. All it’s done is show that you’re not proud of your own convictions.
You only want dual spec because you just want dual spec. You take preexisting problems that we know will not be solved or even alleviated by dual spec, but you parade dual spec around like it will, without explicitly saying so because you know that people like me exist, and will show throughout the history of wow that the problems won’t go away with dual spec.
Actually pathetic.
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I also don’t think “I don’t want to pay the gold for respecs because I don’t want to play the game” is a good reason to add a change.
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Everyone intelligent knows that dual spec will not solve the problem. It will only mitigate it. That you think saying it will lessen queue times is the same as saying it will solve the problem only reveals you lack the ability to comprehend the written word. That’s why there are words that seem similar but have different definitions. Educated people want to express their ideas with nuance so they know the definitions of the words they use and continually try to increase their vocabulary.
Perhaps Newspeak would be more suited for you.
In “The Principles of Newspeak”, the appendix to the novel 1984, Orwell explains that Newspeak follows most of the rules of English grammar, yet is a language characterised by a continually diminishing vocabulary; complete thoughts are reduced to simple terms of simplistic meaning. The political purpose of Newspeak is to eliminate the expression of the shades of meaning inherent in ambiguity and nuance from Oldspeak (Standard English). In order to reduce the language’s function of communication, Newspeak uses concepts of simple construction, such as pleasure vs. pain and happiness vs. sadness.
I have said this, or something similar many times.
The issue at hand is we don’t have enough tanks.
You say that it will be mitigated by dual spec.
I say it will be mitigated by dual spec for a few weeks, and then the issue will return.
Once people have what they need, the average player will not go tank an instance because they find it fun, they will tank it if they need something or are getting paid. We already know that once they don’t need items, it will only be for payment. We already see, today, that half, if not the majority of groups will not pay for a tank.
So we will still have the same issue, even with dual spec.
No, that’s cope. You’re trying to get an intellectual gotcha off of some trash tier wordplay.
The bottom line is that dual spec will not change the tank problem for any extended period of time.
You just want dual spec because you want it, but hide behind current wow issues as bait to help convince others to your view point.
Cope.
No, I’m not just trying to score points. I really do think you’re an idiot.
says the idiot 
seethe for me.
It does not. The amount of alts created by not having duel spec is not even noticable. And in those very very small cases they do not add anything to overall server. One player is not playing while the other player is
All you have done with this argunent is show that dual spec actually creates more for the economy. Ppl buy different consunables and gear for different specs.
There is not one person that wants to switch specs from dps to tanking that decides to roll an alt mage because dual spec costs yo much.
Those very few that roll a same class alt are just replacing the main. They are not adding anything to the polulation size.
Have any other fail trys?
I am 100 % all for dual spec. I absolutely agree that it does help a very very small amount with tank shortage. But its very small overall.
I also agree that most ppl want dual spec just because they want it. For the simplicity. Qol. Abdolutely agree. No sht. The reason is pointless. Its a great change. Lets push to get it implemented.
It does get implemented…in Wrath. At which point people will instantly demand tri-spec, or unlimited specs.
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