NO REFUNDS! Recruiting! Heroic/Mythic Raiding and Community Guild!

Hey all, Gloombolts here! I help run the Alliance guild on Stormrage - US. Scroll down to raid days and times if you are in a rush! We understand!

Our guild is filled with a bunch of returning veteran raiders from previous expansions with some server first kills in different parts of World of Warcraft’s history. We tell you this not to gloat, but to assure you of our credibility as raiders.

About us We would classify our guildmates as semi-hardcore raiders. We all have a ton of experience under our belts. We aren’t brand new. We also aren’t elitist, toxic, sexist, racist, we don’t age discriminate, (most of us are older), we don’t yell, scream, or harass people here. Not big on guilt tripping, getting political on people, griefing, putting others down. But please don’t misinterpret our message here. We still want you to be yourselves, joke around, troll us a little. Have a good time here, make friends! We are a raiding guild, yes, but also a community guild. We strive to bring back that old school Vanilla WoW and Burning Crusade feel where everyone knows each other and we do more than just getting on every week to raid.

We have 84 (eighty-four) raiders and are looking to get to 160 (one-hundred and sixty). We are building up Raid group 5, 6, and 7 at this time. In the future we will also start building up raid group 8.

Group 1 - This group is Locked.

Group 2 - Is 12/12 Heroic/AOTC and 3/12 Mythic. This group raids on Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays from 9 pm EST to Midnight EST/Server.

Note - They just got back to the game. So did the entire guild. If you are a mythic raider. We encourage you to join up on this team. We have guild substitutes helping them at this time from Group 1.

Group 2 is seeking the following:

A Restoration Shaman or a Restoration Druid

Havoc Demon Hunter
Enhancement Shaman
Assassination Rogue
Unholy Death Knight

Beast Mastery Hunter
Fire Mage

That is all Group 2 is seeking. All other classes and specs are locked in this group.

If you are 465/470 and looking to push further into mythic progression, then I encourage you to reach out to us. They’ll be further along in Mythic Raiding this week.

Group 3 - This group is 12/12 Heroic/AOTC. They raid on Thursdays and Fridays from 7 pm EST to 10 pm EST/Server. They are farming heroic for a few more weeks and then plan to push Mythic with guild substitutes while we fill the roster.

Group 3 is seeking the following:

A Restoration Shaman or Holy Paladin

An Unholy or Frost Death Knight

That is all group 3 is seeking. All other classes and specs are locked in this group. They are farming for Mythic. One shot killing bosses. So please. Apply to this group if your item level, cloak level, essences, are where they realistically need to be for pushing mythic when the raid team is ready. Thank you.

Group 4 - This group is 11/12 Heroic with some members having AOTC. The group is gearing some people up who came back to the game late. They raid on Wednesdays and Thursdays from 8:30 pm to 11:30 pm EST/Server.

Group 4 is seeking the following:

A Restoration Shaman or Restoration Druid

A Havoc Demon Hunter or Unholy Death Knight

That is all group 4 is seeking. All other classes and specs are locked in this group.

Group 5 - Is a brand new raid team. Currently at 10 people. They plan to do Normal for a few weeks and get to know each other better as WoW players and raiders. If you just got back to the game, this is the perfect group for you to catch up with in our Guild at this time. - They raid on Fridays and Saturdays 9:30 PM EST to 12:30 AM EST.

Group 5 is currently seeking the following:

Holy Priest or Discipline Priest
Restoration Druid or Holy Paladin

Unholy or Frost Death Knight
Enhancement Shaman
Feral Druid

Fire Mage
Shadow Priest
Balance Druid
Elemental Shaman
Destruction Warlock

That is all group 5 is currently seeking. All other classes and specs are locked in this group.

Group 6 - Has started forming! Are you a morning person?
Do you only have time to raid in the morning two days a week? Well, here at No Refunds, we get that! This group is starting for people who need that morning schedule on the weekends because life is just too busy for them otherwise.

Group 6 will be raiding on Saturdays and Sundays from 8:00 am to 11:30 am EST/Server.

Group 6 has a Brewmaster Monk Tank - (Very Geared) and a Feral Druid - (Very Geared)

This is a morning group, but this group plans on pushing Heroic fast and getting into Mythic now and in Shadowlands very seriously. So if you’re a morning Mythic Raider. Then we have eighteen spots left to fill in this group. Hit us up!

Group 7 - Has started forming! Do you have a weird work schedule where you can do two days a week but it’s spread out because of work? Well look no further! Here you go!

Group 7 is going to raid on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 7 pm EST to 10 pm EST/Server.

They have a Warlock - (Very Geared) and a Demon Hunter - (Gearing).

This is also a brand new group with 18 spots available! Hit us up if these days and times work for you! Thank you!

Group 8 - Not starting at this time. This will be our last raid group in our guild though.

Guild related events: Right now we are setting up our Mythic Plus Tank and Healer Council. - This position is for Tanks and Healers who either:

A) Have no time to raid.
B) Have no desire to raid ever and just want to push keys.
C) Are tired of trying to time keys with pugs.
D) Push really high keys now and in Shadowlands.
E) Want very well put together established teams to push the hardest keys.

We want to have 10 mythic plus tanks and healers at this time!

Mythic Plus Tanks that we have:

  1. Brewmaster Monk
  2. Blood Death Knight
  3. Guardian Druid
  4. Protection Warrior
  5. Protection Warrior
  6. Vengeance Demon Hunter


  1. Protection Paladin
  2. Protection Paladin
  3. Blood Death Knight
  4. Vengeance Demon Hunter

Mythic Plus Healers that we have:

  1. Holy Paladin


  1. Holy Paladin
  2. Mistweaver Monk
  3. Restoration Shaman
  4. Restoration Druid
  5. Holy Priest
  6. Discipline Priest
  7. Restoration Shaman
  8. Mistweaver Monk
  9. Restoration Druid

Each Tank and Healer will get their own channel in discord. We have meetings every other week for the M+ Council to talk about paths to take, pulls to make based on affix weeks strategies to use during certain pulls, ETC. It is a place for our M+ guildmates to talk, learn, and help the community.

These healers and tanks are also here should a Raid Tank or Raid Healer not be available. They can fill in for a night or two. This will be a rare occurrence down the road.

Down the road T-Mog runs as a guild, achievement runs as a guild, Feats of Strength achievements as a guild.

Outside of raid For those who just came back to BFA, we run old raids, arenas, and BGs to help you catch up on your essences, leveling your cloak, understanding your class, corruptions, best in slot gear, etc. So don’t hesitate to seek us out! Will help you if you want to join us!

Outside of Raiding and Mythic Plus

We have a PvP Officer setting up Guild Battleground runs, and will eventually be creating arena teams for those who desire to get in the ring.

Raid Rules Here at No Refunds we are pretty chill when it comes to rules. However due to some recent events that we’ve noticed, we have Officers, Raid Leaders, Raid Assists and Veteran Raiders who notice toxicity and drama bombs from a mile away. We don’t tolerate that in guild, definitely not in Raid. If you are brand new to a Raid group, we expect the following from you:

  1. Don’t tell the Raid Leader how to lead. You can offer a different strategy to them before or after the raid. Our Raid Leaders are very open-minded and have no problem learning from other experienced players.

  2. Don’t talk over the assists or correct them on something they already know. If a Raid Leader misses a week because of an emergency or computer/internet issues, do not take it upon yourself to lead our raid. If we need some assistance from you in this regard we will approach you if we feel you are capable and/or ready. The Raid Assists will take over though.

  3. Don’t play the “he said she said” game with us. If you are brand new to the guild, even if you roll with us for a long time, we know how to recognize and root out toxicity and drama. We are very quick to act. So please refrain from joining us if this is something you enjoy doing on a daily basis. We are not a good fit for you if that is the case.

  4. Be on early and on time for our Raids. We provide your flask, food, and pre-pot raiding materials.

Raid Attendance Here at No Refunds, we appreciate people’s real life schedules over World of Warcraft. Whether it’s a demanding job even during this scary pandemic, marriage, kids, or you just need to take a mental health day. All you have to do is @ us in your specific discord chat channel. The raid leader, raid assist, officer, and raiders all know at the same time you can’t make it. - This mindset for the guild is for Normal and Heroic Raiding - Mythic is full attendance and on time. NO EXCEPTIONS. Unless a real life emergency occurs. The Mythic Raid team will understand! Real life > WoW.

Guess what? You won’t be benched, replaced, yelled at, drama bombed, none of that stuff. You just come back the next day or next week. Going on a vacation, wedding, or job schedule shift? No problem! Just @ us in your respective raid channel the days and times you’ll be gone and when you get back. We will be there to greet you when you get back! That’s it! Simple as that.

@ing us in the right discord channel for your raid group is our one rule in guild though. If you can’t @ us in your respective channel days ahead of time or hours ahead of time. We aren’t going to remove you from guild. However these groups are farming heroic for mythic or pushing mythic. So if you want to mythic raid here, it isn’t going to get dramatic, but we are Semi-Hardcore. That means when it’s raid time, it’s raid time. If you are in a normal or heroic group, people can manage, but when the rosters are locked for Mythic, RAID TIME IS RAID TIME. No exceptions. So if you fail to get @ us in your respective channel, don’t show up to raid, are consistently late, etc. Don’t be shocked if you get replaced. We are not going to hold 19 people back because you can’t commit to a very simple structured rule set.

We understand if a real life emergency happens. That is way more important than WoW. But do not mistake us, if real life emergencies are happening every week, every raid day, we will eventually ask you to take a (temporary) seat. So please don’t take offense, we have raiders to look out for.

Loot Rules We don’t have any. We just suggest you help your fellow raid members. Example: You get three or four best in slot pieces in one night. If one of them is another raider’s best in slot. Give them one piece. Be the bigger person. No one is going to force you to give away that piece. Just be cool. Be an adult, a team player and help progress as a guild and raid group. Again, simple as that!

Closing statements We plan on having 8 raid groups in Shadowlands all pushing Mythic content for every tier of the expansion. We will have 20 Mythic+ groups taking guildmates to finish keys. After we accomplish this task, the guild plans on locking down those rosters and groups. We are organized with the goal of downing content in a timely manner. We don’t intend to grow any larger than that. We don’t want to become a super guild. We want to be an intimate size guild that also takes Mythic level content seriously but in a non-toxic like manner.

All the Raiders, Raid Leaders, Raid Assists, Recruiters, M+ Council Members, Officers and Co-GM’s know everyone pretty well here. If you intend to apply to our guild please seriously evaluate if you match up with our goals both as a progression based group and a toxic free community environment. Be honest with yourself and us. We know who we want playing with us and who we don’t want playing with us. This isn’t to turn you off to joining us. It is intended to make sure you seriously consider what we have told you here. If you have any questions concerning this or if anything is unclear please have those questions ready for us during the interview process. We will be happy to clarify.

As you know by now. We’ve come back to the game late. We are building our foundation for Shadowlands. While downing as many Heroic and Mythic bosses as possible coming back to the end of an expansion. We want a great community. We’d love to have you with us. If this guild sounds like a good fit for you: A drama free community, who doesn’t ask for much, wants you to have fun. Down Mythic content without all the yelling and immature antics. We are No Refunds and we are sure if you roll with us you won’t have buyer’s remorse. Thank you for reading and we look forward to hearing from you.

Please message Gloombolts, Peq, Thermalbot, Sólemn, Nightmãre, Sunshïnë , Illia, Underjoyed, Averagesteve, and Azhorratha if you want to talk with us on the server Stormrage - US (Alliance).

You can add me on real ID: Rhyan#11764
Discord: Venris#3529

Have a good day everyone! Hope to hear from you soon!

No Refunds!!!


give us a try if this post peaks your interest, bunch of friendly people looking to down content and enjoy the game as a community.

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Need more for my weekly no leaver 15 get in here

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Need more for my Mythic Jaina mount thanks.

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You should join us cause we’re the best. Also please raid with me on the weekends. :mountain:

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One day, if i forget. Remind me.

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He made me do it.

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My GM told me to post here. :laughing:

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Guild leader is very nice and the guild is very fun. It’s a great time in here.


But on this toon? Idk how the forums work ok LUL.

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an amazing guild and community!!

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Great guild with awesome people. Please check us out. Thanks!

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Meant to post that under Rokkitok!


We are and awesome fun guild, we treat people like their family. You matter, what you love to play matters!!! Come and join our team and be apart of the fun!

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We have ice cream

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Oops, wrong character

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It’s a great place to be.

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If you want to have fun, then, join to no refunds!

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Hey there! I’m a 24 year old guy looking to pick raiding back up. I’ve been in one raiding guild or another every expact since WotLK, but I keep turning away due to an always present handful of misogynistic/gatekeeper/shoot-you-down-to-lift-themselves-up group of people. I’m a dedicated guy, I always go over my logs, compare it with high parsing players of my spec, look for how I can approach each fight specifically, and generally always try to improve. I just want to find a group of friends to raid with - a team, not a group of toxic competitors and blamers. As long as it’s fun and uplifting, I believe everyone will want to be there, and no one will want to let the rest of the group down.

I’ve learned that I don’t care particularly what class/role I play, I just want to play it with a group of people that I would want to spend my time with. That being said, I've raided as a disc priest, resto druid, prot pally, bm monk, and all flavors of rogue. Like I said though, I'm a team player and I'll play whatever. I don’t have everything geared, but I do have almost every class leveled. My rogue is 435, my disc priest is 430. I’m looking to raid during the week, on a schedule where I can still live a healthy lifestyle outside of the game. For me, that’s raiding done hopefully by 11pm EST but no later than 12pm EST. The more challenging the better, especially with a supportive environment.


don’t mind me, just a bump passing through

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