Current status:
MM has to choose between pet utility (Intimidation, Roar of Sacrifice, Bloodlust or Master’s Call, mortal strike) and damage (Lone Wolf).
11.1 status:
MM gets pet utility (Intimidation and Roar of Sacrifice work petless, Bloodlust by default, can choose between Cunning or Tenacity pet utility to have access to Master’s Call as well, mortal strike baked into Aimed shot) and they keep their damage.
Overall, all MM hunters get more utility instead of having to choose between utility and damage, when most MM hunters go Lone Wolf as soon as they can because it’s more damage without wonky pet AI or having to deal with it dying. Also means you can take mend pet off the bar completely as MM.
For people worried about “buh what about pet talents in the general tree?” Don’t need to worry because for MM, the mend pet talent just buffs Natural Mending for more exhilaration cooldown reduction, the misdirect talent is just a reduced CD on misdirect, and every talent on the general tree that normally interacts with pets is reworked to work petless for MM.
Says snuzy, the narcissistic clown who have to tell everyone he have credibility because no one believes him.
didn’t find any guild to carry me like you
Because that is the only time people can do it, since once it went live it will be weeks or months until they revert and its weeks or months of people not playing how they like out of pettiness.
Frankly I have no idea why Blizzard is making these unnecessary changes. Why not let Frost Mage and MM Hunters have their pets as an option? Those that want to run solo can. Those that want a pet can have it too. Everyone is happy. Everyone was happy.
Because (and you probably missed it since I took would balk at reading the War and Peace these particular threads have become) Blizzard have said that at’s too hard to do both.
Yes, they can code it so that we can have the changes AND still keep the pet. But it’s too hard. So they don’t want to do it. That’s it. THAT is the only real practical reason why we are losing the pet.
Isn’t you that pop up now and then on threads to say how “experienced” you are to talk down to people, exactly because you want to be relevant, despite no one caring about your “credibility”?
How hard can it be to balance pet damage so both options are roughly on par?
Never played hunter to a high level. What utility does the pet provide that you need to spec out of Lone Wolf for? How would losing the pet fix that? If said utility is being added to the class/spec, I don’t see why it can’t be added as part of the talent.
The pet in aoe situations can only attack one target versus LW is bonus damage against all targets in the pull.
I simmed myself running lone wolf and non lone wolf out of curiosity and it was over 100k damage difference.
Lust
Freedom
Roar
Anytime you need to use said utility you have to summon the pet which drops lone wolf use the ability, then cast a three second dismiss pet, and wait for a delayed lone wolf to return.
No other spec in the game is punished for using utility.
They can’t because MM’s AoE damage is based on Trick Shots and the pet has zero interaction with MM’s kit beyond being a single-target DoT with some utility that can die.
The rework gives MM the utility, while balancing the damage so it can have both utility and damage instead of being punished for trying to use utility.
Thats because you are narcissist begging for attention and the dopamine by looking down on people, truly sad
That’s why you have to tell everyone how “good” you are, how “credibility” you have and how you answer to all my comments, trying to get the last response, cause a narcissistic clown like you(fit your set btw) need to be the one left on stage, i bet you will answer this one too saying how you dont care at all
Snuzy is like the lil brother or nephew who when play videogames get the controller not connected to the console and think he is doing great
We can only work with what we are told. And so far what we are told is that the pet is going to be removed and an ENTIRELY NEW toolkit is being introduced.
This is NOT like what happened previously. Previously, the Pet could not be summoned if LW got activated. That was not removing it altogether and replacing it with something else entirely different.
Intimidation can already work without a pet, but requires a 2nd talent point for that. The net result of this change is MM (with respect to intimidation) gets 1 extra point on the class tree vs 11.0 (as intimidation is going from a 2 point node for MM to a 1 point).
I guess I will have to say it again. They aren’t removing the Pet for any reason than because they want to make balancing and coding EASIER.
Yes, they can “just make those 3 utilities as part of the lone wolf talent”. That is not rocket science. Of course they can do that. They can make everything look pink too. But they don’t want to. Because it’s too hard.
It’s a very good change, MM only used pets if they wanted lust (and they would grumble about it, pet use was a dps loss) and maybe in the open world/pvp. In no way could you justify pet use in a group other than bloodlust, if you used a pet for damage you were trolling your group as MM. Also, Pet AI and pathing is horrible, just ask any BM hunter that wanted to Kill Command and got “no path available”.
As I said in another post:
Survival was a ranged spec til it wasn’t and now Marksman was a pet spec til it wasn’t. Thing change.
And since it is a PTR, that many things change, as they did many times before, before going live, nothing is 100% certain.
They can, for all intents and purposes, scrap everything tomorrow and do nothing, it is in the relm of possibility.
Certainty, by definition is used when something will happen, as factual. Like its with certainty i can say a there is going to be night after the day today.
