I was excited for them but doesnt look like anyone did rbgs this whole classic xpac sigh why?
I have no idea about cata, but with how big pvp was in mop, I do see them drastically increasing next expansion.
Hopefully… first season of mop is when i got that sick blue warrior elite set in rbgs… i cant wait i just dont know why they removed cross realm lfg
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there would be a much larger rated pvp presence, but blizz decided to put the final nail in the coffin for that the remainder of cata with DISABLING LFG BEING CROSS-REALM FINDABLE. /bigsadface
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PVP is not even a second class citizen in Classic
Wasn’t that popular to be honest for more than the first half of the expension.
MoP pvp wasn’t as good as what people say. But the itemization was accessible reforging made pvp set more fun to use… Back when players knew how to make their stats priority before retail makes no sense and kind of force a stat simulation.
But yeah with Siege of Orgrimmar that was going for a full year and a half and timeless isle being the patch place. People Embraced Order chaos and did a bunch of PvP and at some point because it was all there was to do.
if i rember right at the start of cata it was the best way to get conq points so people would make pugs and afk them but ya that was at the start of cata now no point
There was a group called the “SETHRBG” group but “Jord” and his team made them quit, and thats about it.
even on that Pretend Server people are playing on, It looks worse than Cataclysm pvp. Lol. MOP is gonna be DOA faster than Cata was
couple of reasons
first is that pvp is a minigame and most people dont care
second, one of the reasons to do rbgs was to transmog the old vanilla pvp gear but blizz gave the transmogs away for free
I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Forgetting all the other issues PvP has right now on cata (LFG tool, end patch balance, etc). You’re forgetting what 5.4 arms warrior was like. People were throwing tantrums on the forums constantly during Shadowlands about ignore pain and warrior durability (more angry about warrior durability than boomies proccing rng 1 shots during convoke, or mages deleting people in a combust, or rogues with a castsequence macro, or ringing clarity+divine toll ret, or demon hunter pressing the hunt and deleting players), and that’s NOTHING compared to mop second wind.
I’m going to assume whatever dev’s are working on mop also aren’t stupid enough to use the 5.4 baseline resilience (77% baseline btw), because if they do the only class capable of killing anything will also be arms warrior. And if 2+2=4, in this case 4 is going to equal dead pvp within a month.
Even then, it’s another xpac where warrior is really good, and everyone gets really really mad when warrior is anything above playable in pvp for some reason, ex: TBC warrior hard carried by druid while it wheelchairs about hoping to rng-mace stun someone and kill them (people hated this more than RM making up 70% of 2’s ladder).
This is a funny joke right? xD
Undoubtably anyone that played retail Cata to retail MoP will agree that MoP saved WoW.
Take a look at the plummet of WoW subs mid Cata compared to the consistency of subscribers in MoP even when SOO raid was extremely long, the Timeless Isle was a load of fun.
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I don’t know about that, I clearly remember playing Destro on the last season and being able to delete 2 people in a GCD with Havoc.
What is going to be very toxic (especially in RBGs) if they don’t fix it ahead of time is aff lock snapshots with soul swap.
In MoP you have 2 PvP stats, PvP Resilience and PvP Power.
Power cuts through Resilience by essentially working in the reverse. 1% Damage Reduction from Resil vs 1% Damage Dealt via Power.
In the last season of mists of pandaria you would’ve had enough power to mostly (possibly entirely, I don’t remember exact numbers) cut through resilience. If I remember right though, you don’t get a substantial source of pvp power until you get an arena weapon and even then it’s only like 1500. 400 power is equal to 1% damage dealt to players. See where this is going?
Don’t just take the math for granted though. Don’t you worry, I took a break from wotlk classic during ToGC when my guild (that I’d been with since BWL) disbanded due to roster issues. I played a fresh mop pserver for a change of pace. And let me tell you, as a warrior in full crafted pvp blues with the blue sword from that one arena scenario, the only class that could even remotely stand up to me was another warrior. I literally would 1v3/4/5 and as long as there wasn’t another warrior I couldn’t die through second wind before I started killing people off. They had to lower the baseline resil because obviously, 77% when you have less than 10% pvp power doesn’t work very well.
It will have the same effect as what happened the first couple weeks of wotlk classic when everyone abused wg and the casuals who leveled slowly got big mad. And then challenger was below 1400 lol
I only play and have ever played to pvp. Raiding is just a means to get a weapon or trinket. And its only a little entertaining. Pvp is exciting
Your entire point is null and void. Private MoP server l0l
I fully remember how stupid broken Arms was, and it wasn’t just Second Wind (though SW is complete BS). Deep Wounds becomes the hardest hitting DoT in the game by far, ticking for more than all Lock and Spriest DoTs combined. Not to mention all the other buffs warriors get (like double charge in combat with a longer stun time, 25% dr on defensive stance, etc.). Or any of the other classes and their BS (Rogues, WW Monks, etc.).
Fortunately I will not be playing this garbage expansion that truly had the WORST PvP balance ever.
Basic formulas are basic. Doesn’t change anything.
Sorry that you still think private servers work the same way they did in 2014, but funny enough, most of them are higher quality than anything blizzard has released.
That’s kind of what happens when people who care about their final product keep working on it and fixing it so you don’t have issues like DS green fog making it to live and being there for weeks.
Wait till people remember Mistweaver with Dematerialize, 10 second cd, passive, 3 seconds of 100% chance to be missed by melee/range/spells when stunned.
Or lock with like 3 different versions of fear on different DR’s.
Rogue with burst of speed.
It’s gonna be a great time.
I for one, cannot wait for them to blunder horrifically and use last patch baseline resil so nobody is killable.
there was a bunch of RBGS going on every single day, but blizzard decided to kill it off by disabled Cross Realm LFG when the new started, this wont be fixed for MoP i can guarantee it, unless they are planning large server mergers.