Alliance victories in Bfa: Lordaeron, Stromgarde, Darkshore, Zuldazar, Brennadam, Orgrimmar.
Horde victories in Bfa: Teldrassil.
See the problem here?
Aggression is winning the Horde nothing at all. They really need to take the hint and quit trying.
Abolishing the position of Warchief and forming the Horde Council is a good start. The ideal next steps would be to become self-sufficient so they don’t have to rely on Alliance resources to live. Getting new vegetation to grow in Durotar is a good start for that.
Now we just nee Blizzard to not muck things up for them and let this follow through.
If things continue like they are with DF, I could seriously see blizzard continuing to use alternate timelines to tell any faction conflict stories and leave the main storyline about us defeating the next big bad evil(s)
Ah, so long as you get something new to replace what you lost, you lost nothing?
Checkmate.
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Well according to Erevien simple shock value/our NPC deaths mean nothing because we will always have enough people to make the race matter. Using that same logic, the loss of Horde leaders means nothing because the Horde will always have leader to replace those they lost.
Sorry but you’re pretty bad with Chess Treng. Better stick with checkers.
You don’t lose NPCs.
Then I guess you don’t lose leaders either because they are also NPCs.
Some folks had Nostalgia Sadness when certain NPCs who were previously vendors or trainers in Darnassus appeared as ghosts in Ardenweald after you rescued them from the Maw. Likely they didn’t give a crap about them while they were alive aside from selling grays or training abilities, but that’s the nature of loss I guess. You don’t know what you lost until you lose it.
My Night Fae alt did the quest doing those rescues and the one of the ghosts was all “Damn Horde! You murdered me! SHame!” Even though the character was a vulpera and weren’t part of the Horde when Teldrassil happened.
Oh well. Let them rant. They did die in a fire after all.
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Vendor NPCs are nothing compared to leaders.
Race leaders drive the story. Not cities. Not no name vendor NPCs. And the leaders the Horde has now are nothing but trash.
I hated Jaina Proudmoore and still do
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Jaina is evil for stealing the Amani Troll’s land and more importantly helping the Alliance defeat the Orcish Horde during the Second war (which included the Amani).
Warcraft 3
And this is why I refused to put any of my Horde alts in Night Fae, even though it was the recommended covenant for most of them.
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it’s not all bad, you help rescue Vol’jin and make him a loa or something
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I skipped Shadowlands entirely.
Ardenweald didn’t do anyone any favors.
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At least the start of the path that he’ll someday become a Loa, hopefully. Soon ™
Rescuing the nelf souls from the Maw was a good favor.
Getting the nelfs a seed for their tree was a good favor.
Needless to say, rescuing Vol’jin as well.
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Not really. They shouldn’t have been in shadowlands in the first place the whole thing was a contrived mess that destroyed character deaths, NE wisp lore, elune and many other things just so we can watch how great and tragic Sylvanas was.
Not needed.
The seed was completely unnecessary. After WoT nobody was asking themselves for a new seed. Justice against the Horde, a strike back, revenge topped those charts. But if we know anything from this game is that Horde can never be humbled.
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Garrosh literally did nothing wrong until he purged the Warlocks in the Cleft of Shadows. Everything else he did was justified.
I’m so proud of my people for inventing the mana bomb and removing that blighted human colony off the face of Kalimdor, leaving it for the wonderful native Tauren who truly deserved the land. The Horde knew how to take action back then!
(Ok since some people actually take this stuff seriously I should add /s)
Yes, we know that Shadowlands was the worst expansion ever and the whole thing with Sylvanas was lameduck energy. Rescuing the night elves from the Maw was still a good thing to happen.
Tyrande and Malfurion both seem more happy to have the nelf souls safe in that seed and eventually wants them in that tree instead of pursuing any vengeance against the Horde.
You and the rest of the Alliance extreme fans remaining salty over not getting your big revenge crusade? Well, that’s just another reason why they probably shouldn’t do faction war again. Nobody gets any sort of satisfaction out of it.
Time to move on.
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