I dont do mythic raids anymore, but i was out gearing heroic 2-3 weeks in on my paladin and just stopped trying to raid once i got my alar trinket. only 1-2 items are BIS in raid. Raid just has a horrible table for the effort.
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M+ doesnât keep me from raids; itâs the cliqâs attitudes that do that:)
Translation: I canât do mythic but I want easy mythic gear. Doesnât work that way. They would make that change then youâd complain that killing the first 3 mythic bosses which literally take no brain power to do doesnât give 233 gear in your vault.
Fun Fact: When you stop hyper-focusing on gear and shift your focus more towards being goal-oriented such as wanting pushing your IO score, PvP rating, or getting boss kills, you end up getting a lot of loot passively, especially when playing with right minded individuals who care more about getting better as a team. If you PUG, expect a glass ceiling and donât complain when itâs lower than you thought.
IMO the ONLY problem with current m+ vs raiding gear system is the first few weeks of a new tier. M+ gear is so powerful when you can access it before stepping into raids. Or when you get a vault item (such as a weapon or trinket) before you even progress far enough to kill a raid boss that can drop such items. Once youâre decently far into the raid, gear ramps up pretty fast, especially in a guild run where people are trading around stuff they donât need. My characters are all mostly equipped with raid items. It also takes more time to grind valour or unlock multiple m+ vault slots than it does to clear the raid.
For heroic-only raiders, the balance tips a little because youâre just playing the vault game. Youâll never get 226 items until the m+ vault gives them to you. So maybe +14s are too easy if thatâs your endgame, but previous iteration of the vault rewarded you disproportionately for m+ as well. Either way⌠if youâre gearing up from vault alone, it shouldnât really matter. It takes a long time and youâre well behind the curve if youâre not participating in content that rewards similar gear anyway.
Low IQ poster telling everyone else theyâre low IQ⌠just delete the post and stop your crying. No one cares about your sob story.
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Your points are being challenged, and now youâre resorting to calling everyone stupid instead of defending your position. Amazing.
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I hope they leave it. You made an argument that didnât hold any weight. Now you got a slap of reality and want to run and hide. Why am I not surprised by this attitude? Seems to go hand in hand with wanting crazy rewards for whatever it is you do.
Itâs been given to you clear as crystal, so going down the ad hominem path is not only annoying, but proof you donât understand what youâre saying.
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I love the idea of raiding; what puts me off is the cliqqish attitudes of guilds I joined & how if you outperform them youâre excluded.
My issue is that Sire who has the items I want most hasnt dropped my any other then a conduit and pet every single week since ive killed him.
I no longer need the weapon as much thatks to M+ but dang it I want the trinket but at this point Iâll probly get the ones I need from PF and DOS at this rate.
Unless its mythic raid yeahâŚits just not worth the time and takes less people.
Thereâs an actual benefit to M+ being the primary source of gearing through the Great Vault because guilds can lock out for progression and not worry about not getting anymore gear upgrade.s
Lmao what? Do you want somebody to overperform so they can carry on fights?