Warlocks are
Next after we all reroll warlock 
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Iâm a troll now because you canât refute facts or understand basic concepts everyone else understands?
I literally disagreed with him on something in this very thread.
Iâm not sure what youâd be âcondoningâ by not resorting to straight up insults.
Youâre a troll because you donât think what the majority of people plays matters in terms of accessibility or skill level and basically claim your own definitions as truth.
LFR is raiding my dude.
Thatâs not what a troll is. Having differing opinions doesnât make me a troll.
Iâm sorry you are having a hard time understanding that just because heroic raid difficulty is super difficult for you that doesnât make it high end content.
Even if it was (itâs not) that still doesnât make heroic high end content. Heroic is still mid tier content.
And then you emboldened him by being a pedant and ignoring that heroic rading is not what the vast majority of the player base can do.
Like⊠youâre both being weird and gatekeepy about this. Yâall need to expose yourself to more general players smh.
can do? I think the vast majority of the playerbase absolutely can Heroic raid if they want to. I think many choose not to, for myriad reasons, and I think itâs incredibly insulting to make this assertion that they canât.
This makes no sense after you just said the majority of people canât heroic raid.
If by anything you meant a 40% buff toâŠray of frost. We got it. LOL. What a joke
Okay but numbers actually matter. If you can show me that over 50 percent of players successfully beat heroic raidingâs final boss within a season Iâll say Iâm wrong.
Imagine thinking that the percentage of completion changes the level of difficulty.
It does in terms of relative scale of accessibility to the median player.
So does context. How many people play a particular difficulty does not equate to how difficult it is.
All you need for proof of this is to look at any given game on Steam that has a decent runtime and see how many people have completed basic achievements like finishing the game
Hint: in most cases, less than 50% of people finish the games they buy.
Everyone has the same access to all content. Personal choice is what changes that.
Itâs a very decent metric for the relative amount of people who can do it. If you want to do a stricter study and say âthe percentage of people who compete heroic who raid at allâ then get back to me once you do it.
But Iâm just gonna have to disagree with you when you say heroic raiding is medium difficulty for the average player because I absolutely donât think it is. Especially not this raid with razagath.
No. Itâs a perfect metric for how many people have done it. It gives no information whatsoever about whether or not they can.
Now whoâs making excuses?
Your argument is that heroic raiding is medium difficulty for the average player. Back that up with something.
This isnât an excuse, itâs entry level statistics⊠it is not something with which you can divine truths like âthe people that didnât do it canâtâ
My argument is that heroic raiding is medium to medium-high difficulty, by virtue of the three (or four, depending on how you view LFR) tiers. It has nothing to do with the average player, nor the above average player. It doesnât even have anything to do with being casual or not.
If you want me to get as pedantic as you have been, qualify and quantify âmediumâ and âmedium-high.â
(But Iâm not gonna do that because I choose not to be annoying and pedantic! And I generally know what you meant!)
I have. In a world with 3 tiers, N H M, H is the mid-range difficulty.
In a world with 4, L N H M, H is the higher of the two mid-range difficulties.
You have qualified. You have not quantified.