The Blood Elves have been playable since BC, despite 90% of their population killed by the Scourge, and then got engaged in a civil war with their own prince but still are able to have forces and presence in a few places.
“First time?”
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yea, but as opposed to the Night Elves, the blood elves still had a city, lands, a few people and were able to recover. None of that applies to the Night Elves. Even their souls were obliterated in the maw, and the whole thing is being painted as a good thing now because Sylvanas did it.
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The Night Elves most likely have Ashenvale, and if I remember correctly, are setting up in Hyjal. Darkshore was retaken.
Silvermoon had to be rebuilt by reinvigorated magisters after assistance was gained from Illidan. The time gap between BC and Warcraft 3 involved Blood Elves working hard to actually have land and a city again.
Uh no, that has been disproven in the lore. The Horde has full control of Ashenvale.
Which isn’t even their zone in the first place. It’s neutral and the Horde certainly wouldn’t want to have them there.
Also the Blood Elves’ home wasn’t destroyed out of spite and to reduce the total amount of cities in the game. And it wasn’t glorified. Arthas was still brought to justice instead of being celebrated as a hero out of nowhere and getting away with genocide.
Furthermore, Sylvanas was never portrayed as wrong for wanting justice against Arthas, and she also never had to give up on it.
Since the Horde has the Night Elf zones now, there’s even less of a chance that they’d get any of them back.
Also, the Blood Elf souls weren’t tortured and obliterated in wow hell.
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No, and I’m tired of this disingenuous argument.
Night Elves went through the War of the Ancients, the War of the Satyr, and Warcraft 3 - each of which involved catastrophic levels of population and territory loss, two out of the three they have yet to recover from. To examine Warcraft 3 specifically, they were invaded by both the Alliance and the Horde, and then by the scourge and the legion. The Horde presence in Ashenvale persisted on through to vanilla, and the faction itself all but severed the druids off from the playable race until BFA - which involved the constructive loss of Moonglade, Hyjal, and debatably Winterspring.
As for the legion?
Their presence is pervasive throughout Night Elf questing - same with Blood Elves and the scourge, and the physical marks are absolutely present. You have the dead scar? I see it and raise you Felwood, which was smack dab in the middle of the Kaldorei heartland and remains decimated to this day.
Is that 90%? Well, first, I don’t know. Vanilla’s intro to every Night Elf player establishes that they are “one of the few Night Elves left in the world”, so, maybe. Not that I believe 90% in the first place of course. That’s kind of a hard figure for me to take seriously as I’m recalling the thousands upon thousands of Sunreavers that I slaughtered in BC for Scryers rep. Sure, some dev randomly said it in an interview, but the visual and interactive language of the actual game doesn’t make me believe it.
But returning to Warcraft 3, I do want you to notice something - Night Elf fans generally don’t complain about it. Why? Because as far as our participation in the MMO is concerned, it’s backstory. We weren’t forced to go through it as members of the playable race in an MMO. Neither did you. The difference between Night Elves and Blood Elves on this point is that Blizzard didn’t make you suffer three more invasions at the hands of an endlessly jeering other faction on which you were portrayed as being either treading water or losing badly with yet more tragedy thrown in to make you feel even worse about it.
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Your bias is really glaring in this particular quote. I highly doubt that anytime a Hordie would whine about how they didn’t like BfA, or Teld, because they weren’t the good guy when they were killing NE children has never been addressed. I’m certain you’ve never stepped in to say this exact quote here to someone bringing up a complaint that Blizz has had bias for ‘10 years’. It seems really obvious though, that you’re bringing this particular point up specifically with the people who’re upset, that…kinda seem like they would have been obviously upset with the outcome of things for them at current time, no matter how you frame/sell the situation.
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I’m not thrilled with it. But I understand their viewpoint. Darnassus, and the Exodar were ghost towns, Ironforge almost as much. They’re not going to devote coding efforts to please 6 people on a subforum.
It appears to me that many of these forum posters are far too irrationally emotional for logic and reason to have an effect. They really do want to be victims.
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Who among us doesn’t want to be a victim? After all, the victim will receive a valuable prize - good attention. Or (scream) are you ready to give up on developing your characters and territories? To be the eternal “servants of the Alliance”, periodically becoming angrier than the Legion and more dangerous than the Old Gods?
We all wish for a valuable prize. But you have to be a victim to take it. Besides human.
Question is: is it not worth the effort on a ghost town for “6 people”, or is it a ghost town with “6 people” because of the way how the devs handled the thing?
Most people act that way. Like everywhere. In comparison to what I’ve seen when played DotA 2 actively, most discussion about WoW are super chill and tame.
gl hf
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Except that what they did made no positive impact on the game’s performance. Those zones are still accessible. They instead devoted more resources to upset an entire community. “Pruning” Teldrassil a) failed from a performance standpoint, and b) cost them millions of dollars in content to make it happen - as opposed to the alternative of doing literally anything else that wouldn’t have cost them further MAUs.
I get that you’re being a Quisling, but let’s not kid ourselves about the resource allocation impacts.
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It’s a bit of both.
Part of the reason is that Darnassus is tucked out of the way in Kalimdor. What made this especially problematic is that it also had none of the amenities of Stormwind and Ironforge. By the time they were added, the rpers had used to rooting themselves in the Eastern Kingdoms and both Darnassus and the Exodar remained ghost towns.
I don’t think that the Devs have been given credit for the steps they tried to fix the problem, even going as far as to create portals to both to give easy access from Stormwind. But by that time it was too late. As it is… the roleplayers themselves have become few enough that even Stormwind hardly sees traffic these days outside of people with their auction/bank alts.
If Teldrassil were to be restored tomorrow, it would return to being a ghost town once the novelty of it’s reappearance had returned.
It is my experience that Brill got more RP activity than Darnassus ever saw on it’s best night.
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Of course, the invasion might also have failed if Sylvanas had been a little smarter. She could’ve kept her mouth shut about the key to the magic gate that lead to Silvermoon, or sent word to the king way sooner. Or, instead of sending single unprotected messengers on foot, she could’ve given one a dragonhawk to fly there with, or sent some troops to protect him.
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What was the content of their Rp about? Because, this is pretty much objectively false from the basis of what I’ve ever seen, and the servers I’ve played on.
Because, if the other Elven capitol city is anything to base my case off of. Darnassus was a place where there would be guilds contesting the reservation of spots to hold court/events at in Darnassus. While the converse of Brill even having someone inside of it was usually pretty obviously false, after all, if UC was empty. It’s not that difficult to assume Brill would never have a player controlled character there doing anything. Just to further my point, there are still NE activities held in Feathermoon Stronghold on the servers I play on, probably due to Darnassus being ‘absent’ now. While, I think I might occasionally see a screenshot from a gathering of 3-4 Undead characters looking for clout.
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I’d say, or at least hope it would be the majority of us who don’t.
This is pretty cute when you consider the screaming consideration of those people who relish making others their victims, only to trap them with their own festering wound argument on how they should take more hits, enjoy it, and not view themselves as somehow, some might say, objectively be made a victim of the narrative, and playerbase.
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Shows how little time you spent in Darnassus. Maybe you should post on the character you used to RP in Brill instead.
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She’s a Blood Elf player I think. Ariessa I think the name is. She hates Night Elves and spends most of her time here on the forums talking down about them.
I don’t understand why people do this.
Who exactly do they think they’re fooling?
No surprise to me.
Probably something about the NEFPA idk.