Even that isn’t new. Arthas wasnt an esteemed mage but be managed to create a bridge of ice across the sea of Quel’thalas for his scourge forces. The same is implied to happen during the scourge invasion on Stormwind Harbor.
Freezing ocean water, salt water even doesn’t share the same rules in game as it does in real life.
Sylvanas is gonna die. The person who gave the order to burn the tree will be dead soon enough. Nathanos is dead.
You are not talking about justice. You are talking about vengeance.
What about all the Horde soldiers that followed the orders?
Or the leaders that stood with her after her actions?
Imagine there is a murder. If you assist the murder in anyway then you are guilty of the same crime.
If you assist the murderer after the fact you are still guilty though probably obstruction of justice and whatever else the prosecution can throw at you.
Its still justice as far as the entire Horde military and leadership is concerned.
Just because Sylvanas dies does not mean justice was served.
Imagine the same murderer. What if they get away? Years later they get into a crash and die or maybe double crossed or even killed in the act of another crime.
Was justice served? I doubt it.
Sylvanas didn’t launch the catapults herself nor is she a shaman capable of summoning fire and wind elementals to make Teldrassil burn faster.
So this sparked a thought for me.
What if there was an Alliance-only quest chain to hunt down (let’s say) eight specific trolls who are identified as the ones who actually pulled the levers on the catapults to ignite Teldrassil and/or used spells to spread the flames.
Would that, in addition to the Sylvanas raid and the Tyrande-vs-Nathanos cinematic and the end of BfA, be enough to feel satisfying as payback? Why or why not?
The whole bit of criminal justice babble isn’t how murder cases work
Then please explain.
The full issues facing the Night Elves when it comes to being presented as believable rivals in a faction rivalry have been laid out, and summarily rejected without every actually being read, by Horde Posters hundreds of times at this point.
For one accessory to murder is a different crime so the analogy doesn’t hold, for two the vague way you describe it would make a taxi driver picking up a murderer liable for obstruction of justice.
Death of Sylvanas and a definitive end to Nathanos since he is in shadowlands but we dont know where.
A violent retake of Gilneas and Ashenvale from the Sylvanas sympathizers that the Horde arrested but never turned over.
Maybe even a kill on Gallywix.
A diplomatic addressing of the rest of the Horde to the Alliance to build trust and some positive relationship.
Because besides Andiun, Thrall, Jaina and Baine nobody trusts one another.
PS. Its really important that Genn or Tyrande get the kill on Sylvanas. We can’t afford yet another Horde on Horde duel that satisfies nobody.
Besides these I think anything else is too excessive and punishing to the Horde player. Its the best compromise I can think of besides everyone just feigning collective amnesia.
The taxi driver would be ignorant of the crime.
Not associates.
But regardless of the specific charge they will still be charged with a crime.
Being stuck in Cata limbo doesn’t mean it hasn’t been done; there haven’t been major updates to Azuremyst and Quel’thalas questing since the removal of class quests but it doesn’t mean Draenei are still falling from the sky.
Also you still have no idea how criminal law works, stop.
Night Elves and Worgen fans have not seen a satisfactory “kick the Horde out” event
Thats why its needed.
No but I know enough that assisting a murderer or knowingly helping them escape makes you a criminal.
Unless of course you were being held hostage in a way and forced to assist against your will.
Ah, so you’re one of the “The Night Elves have to show themselves to be powerful by winning a big battle against the Horde” types?
Well after getting victimized by getting their butts kicked in 8 different ways they do need a powerful moment to empower them.
Whats wrong with that?
war is hell. Stop acting like every soldier who has ever taken an order is guilty of something they are not.
And the fact that the Horde had a civil war over this is pretty telling that the horde didn’t even like Sylvanas and her direction.
It’s a step in the right direction, but that doesn’t absolve the Horde leadership, or characters like Belmont. Not saying those characters need to die, because they don’t, not even Belmont. But they need to be taken to task.
Clearly wrong since Blizzard took the effort of showing the Horde arresting random Horde characters in Orgrimmar so not only 3 people are guilty or “lul war is hell so we can do what we want” is not an excuse.
Couple patches too late and they only acted when Sylvanas turned on them.
You are asking for justice and none of what the Horde has done has accomplished anything in the way of justice.
Specifically retaking Ashenvale and holding a defensive line in their own lands on screen. Yes. I know that mere idea of the Night Elves being anything but your punching bag makes Horde players recoil in disgust.
Was justice ever served after Thermore? nope.
Appointing Garrosh? Nope.
Ruining Pandaria with our pointless factional war? Nope.
Blighting Undercity? Nope.
Wrathgate? Nope.
Culling of Dalaran? Nope.
Guldan cursing almost all orcs with demon blood? Nope.
Sacking of Dazar’alor? Nope.
Basically all the things Queen Azshara did? Nope.
did Sargeras ever face the music for his injustices? Nope.
Stop acting like Night Elves is the only ones that never got justice. Some justice is better than no justice at all.