This reminds me of a certain politician that does the same thing. Keeps stating a untrue statement and thinks it’ll eventually become the defacto truth.
Doesn’t work here or real life.
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That’s not what I’m doing though. I’ve substantiated it with facts. Your example is purely opinion.
Fixed it for you. I can’t understand how you listed supporting evidence for my argument and can’t see how Delves is in fact easier than the other pillars in relation to the rewards.
You’re another one who disagrees, but is unable to make an actual counter argument.
If I said:
“It’s a FACT that mythic+ as a game mode sucks and the majority of people who play it are jerks” you would rightfully dismiss such a take as garbage.
It’s hard to take your comments about wanting to have an intellectual debate seriously when you’re stating your own opinion as fact.
And if we’re being totally honest here, your OPINIONS are worth the same as mine. Which is nothing. Even if you believe they’re facts.
Get over yourself
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I dont play m+ or raid anymore so I really don’t care about what those players do unless it affects or effects my game mode.
M+ players want delvers to care about m+ and we just don’t.
We are 8 weeks in now, how could any M+ player still be farming delves for upgrades or even side-grades at this point when they get better gear from vault and gilded crests fall like rain?
They certainly aren’t farming delves for crests lol
That is your opinion and that’s not what my argument was. LOL. You literally can’t even understand what my argument is and you keep running circles around it because you know you can’t actually touch it.
This is honestly hilarious how so many of you are circling around and unable to actually point out what my argument is and explain why it’s wrong.
My argument isn’t simply an opinion. I added substantiating evidence to support my claim. Something none of you are doing in your “examples”. It’s been nothing but false equivalent arguments.
Okay, I had you incorrectly pegged you as “honorary game dev” but you’re just a troll.
Oh well can’t win em all
I mean I guess you can not understand what opinions are. But then I recommend you spend some of your time playing WOW on grammar instead. Video games are just a way to waste time.
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I like how you still can’t address the argument. Keep circling.
I made a claim and substantiated it. You and everyone else have not in your examples of what I’m doing and still have not been able to articulate how my claim is wrong besides saying “it’s an opinion”. That’s not a counter and doesn’t explain how the claim is wrong.
If I stated it’s an opinion, then what? You still have not articulated why the opinion would be wrong with any thing to substantiate your opposing claim.
You literally listed off facts that further substantiated my claim.
That’s because opinion can’t be right or wrong. That why they are opinions.
Opinions can be wrong. People think the world is flat.
Not all opinions have an objective right or wrong, but some do.
LOL, that right. That is a fact, it’s a provable fact. The world is round is not an opinion. They just believe incorrect facts. That’s not an opinion at all. The world is round is a fact. The world is bad is an opinion. The world is good is an opinion. The world has oxygen on it is a fact. Water is made of H2O, Fact. Water is Good, opinion.
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Do you have a single quote from an M+ player suggesting delvers should care about M+? M+ players care about the impact delve gear has on M+ amongst players who choose to go into M+. But I cannot recall a single M+ player suggesting delvers should even think about M+, outside of the discussion regarding how delves impact M+.
A lot of M+ players take their time working through the system. Anyone who isn’t routinely running +7 would benefit from still running delves for gear.
Also, even after the nerf to move gilded crests to +8, that is still a high level key for a lot of players. A lot of M+ players simply aren’t at that level yet, even 8 weeks into the season. Some won’t ever reach that level by the end of the season.
M8 is not equivalent to Mythic Raids either.
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Opinions are many times formed through people’s individual understanding, perceptions, and exposure to what they believe are facts.
There are pure opinions that are about a person’s own preferences and there are opinions about a topic that can be substantiated with supporting details.
I made a claim and supported it with evidence and you even provided more that i can use for my claim. You and everyone else have only countered with false equivalent examples of pure opinions or opinions without supporting it.
After all this time no one has been able to objectively counter my claim without trying to make it personal.
Why is my claim wrong? Objectively.
This is it right here.
Lowering the gear rewards in Delves isn’t going to make M+ any better. While lower keys have always been known to be a cesspool. It just got worse this season because Blizz chose to make M+ keys harder. If blizz decides to lower the gear rewards from Delves AND keep M+ this hard they will see the dungeon participation rates are just as low by the time S2 ends.
They need to make lower keys something fun to do. But blizz’s idea of fun just might be adding challenger’s peril starting from 3’s 
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Only the M+ pug players think that way. Everyone else just used Delves as a means of supplanting slots as they farmed M+ keys.
Any M+ player will take the path of least resistance. It’s the only attribute they inherited from the Mythic Raider.
It absolutely will make m+ better. More fun to play because gear rewards exist.
People aren’t doing those keys because they don’t find the game mode fun. The reward is the only draw to a system then the system needs to be reworked into something that can be both fun and rewarding.
If it’s fun then those who aren’t ready for lower keys wouldn’t mind doing them so much.
I did a few of those keys for score, and hated it.